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I found Reddit about 6 years ago, took a little while to understand what it was about but when I finally got it, I felt like I had found the best place on the internet. Somewhere I could be my true self without being myself. Every time I logged in, I felt free. Like solo roaming the streets of a new city in a foreign country for the first time. Intellectual conversation, assistance on vague problems, sharing life experiences, advice, watching porn you didn’t know existed, and then slipping out the back door when you were done.

As many here already know, those days are gone. The freedom is gone, it feels like a communist regime and it seems that their success is their downfall. The entire personality of Reddit has changed and will never come back, it even shows in the users. The community is broken, unauthentic and the Truth has left the conversation. Freedom is dead over there. What a shame. It’s like my favorite bar burnt down.

But the thing that really gets me is that it didn’t just change, it became the exact opposite. It has become the exact reason why someone built it, in the first place.

I read that it’s attracting the most new users of all the social apps. Best performing app, which means the end is near. Soon it will just be a limb of the pretend society that we used to hide from behind the walls of Reddit. And for some reason, I just want to see it burn.

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[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 45 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (10 children)

I know you didn't likely put too much specifically pointed thought into your phrasing of 'feels like a communist regime', but please do realize you are describing a hypercapitalist, shareholder driven, investment seeking and profligate monetization enacting regime, governance structure, moderation style.

Reddit is now the Pepsi Ad with cops and protesters getting their Pepsis and singing kumbaiyah... and then the after credits scene is the cops finish their Pepsis and beat everyone's heads in.

This is enshittification.

This is the relentless and ultimately brutish and stupid drive to extract as much wealth as possible out of anything, in a way that actually destroys the thing, manifest in an online message board.

Lure in the user base, lock down the market demographic, destroy competition as much as you can, and then squeeze every penny out of em when they have no alternatives.

Fuck Spez, RIP Aaron.

EDIT: Oh also, you are a lemm.ee user, your instance is shutting down at thr end of June, you may want to look at setting up another user account on another instance.

[–] Mr_Stellar@lemm.ee 3 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Yes listen, I got it wrong, I took art instead of history and my knowledge of politics and such terms is limited. I generally get my ideas across with emotion and action, but I can’t help admire those who can articulate themselves through words. I also sense the passion in your response, you care about these things, and I’m sure you’ve destroyed a few opponents in a debate.

I like that we both exist, and you shared something that is useful to me. Thank you.

Second part: any suggestions for an alternative to lemme.ee thanks for letting me know. Will I lose all my data?

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Hey friend, no problem!

Yes, I am passionate about these things... got one degree in econ, another in poli sci, and a good deal of work experience in the tech sector... fun how all these things are increasingly intermingled and also unavoidable these days, eh?

A lot of people who spend waaaaay more time online that normal people (I'm counting myself in that group)... often forget that most people have not spent the last decade or two having online political arguments... we get used to the idea of people using terms somewhat incorrectly as being a sign that they are doing so intentionally, as a rhetorical tactic to confuse a topic or argue in bad faith... as opposed to the possibility that someone just isn't as well versed in the topic at hand and is more or less using terms very colloquially.

But some of us can be friendly and at least pretend to be normal, lol!

As for an instance recommendation?

I'd go with .zip, my old, now inactive account is still sitting there, good admin and mod team, decently sized, and they're federated with basically every other lemmy instance... which i think is good for a newbie to lemmy, as that way you can learn for yourself if there are communities or other instances you want to avoid or block, instead of having your instance have already done that for you preemptively.

As for... losing your data, like your account data?

Yeah I think that will end up happening. Though it may be theoretically possible to migrate a user account to another instance... I don't think anyone ever actually does this?

Basically, just make a new account on a new instance, and re subscribe to your favorite communities from your lemm.ee account, and/or block ones you don't like, while your lemm.ee account still exists.

Hopefully this won't be too difficult as your account is fairly new.

There... may also be some kind of thread addressing these concerns on lemm.ee somewhere?

I'd think that if an instance is shutting down, the prudent thing for the mods to do would be to set up some kind of sticky or megathread to give general advice and answers to these kinds of questions?

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[–] SARGE@startrek.website 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Phrasing like that reminds me of all the "this is the commu-social-marxism the libs want" and it's just a picture of current capitalism.

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

I'm being nice because this person is a refugee, the fact that they are here, describing what they've experienced and witnessed, realizing that it is bad and another place could be better... it means they've got a good head on their shoulders trying to escape the hivemind.

Please don't lose them in the pattern buffer, O'Brien =P

[–] Mr_Stellar@lemm.ee 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

this person is a refugee - are you referring to me? The analogy is perfect if you were.

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 days ago

Yes, I am referring to you, as a refugee, I am glad you find it an apt description :D

I hope you do manage to poke around a few other instances on lemmy and find another one to migrate to again, rather bad luck that the one you recently joined is abruptly shutting down soon.

Its probably worth saying that... that doesn't happen too often (ever?) a fairly large lemmy instance just shutting down permanently... that's anomalous, not a thing you're probably going going to encounter often.

Everyonce in a while an instance will have some downtime during an upgrade, or due to accidentally misconfiguring something, but even that is becoming rarer.

Also, when you do quotes..

its based on line breaks

So you can't end them with a dash, you've got to hit enter, make a new line, and that new line will be non-quoted. :D

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[–] the_riviera_kid@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Ive been around long enough to know its an inevitable cycle, hopefully federation saves lemmy from the same fate.

[–] Mr_Stellar@lemm.ee 3 points 2 days ago (2 children)

That was my next question… is it inevitable? Like the fall of every major power in human history. At some point they break.

[–] pinball_wizard@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Expect some (additonal) really nice privately owned Federated instances to launch after Reddit finally dies. (Embrace - Twitter and Mastodon are far enough along that Bluesky exists, already.)

They will have all the usual features, but also a few surprisingly nice additonal (closed source, added by corporate sponsors) features. It will cost some mild annoyance when visiting from an open source truly free federated instance. (Extend)

Eventually the new features will result in lost compatibility with the rest of the fediverse. Users on the new platform can enjoy the rest of the fediverse, but other fediverse users cannot reach any content contributed by users of the new platform. So everyone needs an account on the new platform, to enjoy it. (Extinguish)

Then the new platform enshitifies. (Enshitify)

This prediction is primarily based on how Google managed "Google Talk" when it joined XMPP. Many feel XMPP did not survive it. I still use XMPP, but many folks I talked to on XMPP do not.

The recipe is: Embrace, Extend, Extinguish, Enshitify.

[–] mfed1122@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm not sure about this, but does defederation or blocking work both ways? I.e can an instance stop federating their own content to another instance? I would think so. It seems like corporate instances be pretty effectively boycotted like that.

[–] pinball_wizard@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I'm not sure about this, but does defederation or blocking work both ways?

I think it's by choice in each direction? I'm not sure.

I.e can an instance stop federating their own content to another instance? I would think so.

Yes. And I think that's our best defense against what happened to XMPP. Opinions vary, of course. I guess it'll be up to each instance owner how they handle it.

It seems like corporate instances be pretty effectively boycotted like that.

I hope so. I worry because they say "history usually rhymes".

At the very least, the fediverse was designed with knowledge of lessons learned from XMPP. And I'm certainly, myself, less naive than I was when I fell for Google Talk. Hopefully others are too.

[–] madcaesar@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

Almost certainly yes, once lemmy gets big enough and people in power actually give a shit about it.

The nature of the internet is something has to be hosted somewhere, no matter how obscure eventually there's a source and assholes can apply pressure on the source / host.

Most people running an instance don't have the money nor will to fight governments and mega corps when they uncorck their bullshit attacks

[–] j4k3@lemmy.world 33 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Reddit died in June of 2023.

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 1 points 2 days ago

it died the moment trump got 1st elected.

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[–] lechekaflan@lemmy.world 22 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

it feels like a fascist regime

Fixed. Pete boy wants to get rid of the progressive content he deems offensive, so that he gets better showing with the other white techbros come shareholder day.

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 1 points 2 days ago

Spez loves musk, that tells you what reddit is.

[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The freedom is gone, it feels like a communist regime and it seems that their success is their downfall.

OP,. you're not thinking of communism. You're thinking of authoritarianism and hierarchy. This is what happens to all hierarchies. Go to almost any for-profit corporation, and the same stifling of freedom will be on display. Marxist-Leninist regimes are hierarchical and authoritarian, which is why they act the same as any corpo, but that's not due to "communism"

[–] Mr_Stellar@lemm.ee 3 points 2 days ago

Please scroll up to read my acceptance of failure to correctly identify the name of the crappy thing that Reddit is doing. Thanks for the correction, and I’m glad you could still figure out what I meant dispite my use of correct terminology 🤝 I’m really good at other things though haha

[–] haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com 9 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Exactly. Not communist though, fascist. Communism is something entirely different.

But its also clear that this happened because to thrive in the capitalfascist system, you need to adhere to the rules:

  • strong hierarchy
  • ideologically homogenous
  • strictly controlled ingress
  • constant fear of being excluded
  • pushing individualism and competition

Its the same everywhere and it is scary.

[–] PortoPeople@lemm.ee 4 points 3 days ago

Exactly. Not communist though, fascist.

Was going to say this, lol.

Completely agree otherwise with the op.

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[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

And for some reason, I just want to see it burn.

Technology under capitalism will be used first and foremost for the violent enforcement of capitalism. While extreme censorship is a relatively mild form of "enforcement", it's still a fundamental tool. The hegemonic narrative must be defended at all costs. Just look at the media, politicians, corporations, etc. It's all the same tales.

[–] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 13 points 3 days ago (1 children)

6 years ago? Shit. You must be a lot younger than me 😂.

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[–] Kurious84@lemmings.world 12 points 3 days ago (6 children)

Eff reddit. They ban me anytime I say shit about trump or musk.

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 1 points 2 days ago

Now you don't need to say sht they will ban you.

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[–] Meltdown@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago (6 children)

By 2015 it was already a hollow shell of what it had once been, and by 2020 it was spiritually completely dead. Now it's just shocking how far it's continued to decline, far past what I'd come to think of as rock bottom

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[–] redditistrash@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago

This post feels like something I wanted to write. I agree 100% I want to see that shithole burn

[–] empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I read that it’s attracting the most new users of all the social apps

Most of those are not real users and never have been.

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

By reddits own admission 50% we're all bots. I think it was reported in the tech sub like years back. Reddit wants to be a Facebook clone.

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