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KDE creates a safe haven for Windows 10 exiles.

In the context of the @Endof10 campaign, we have created a new "for" page, this time "for Windows 10 exiles":

https://kde.org/for/w10-exiles/

In it we explain how Linux with Plasma can help users escape the deranged cycle of having to buy a new computer every time Microsoft force-upgrades their operating system.

#Windows11 #Microsoft #endOf10

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[–] marmarta@chaos.social 20 points 4 weeks ago (3 children)

@kde@floss.social @Endof10 @kde@lemmy.kde.social
This action finally spurred me to install vanilla Linux with KDE, and wow. KDE is so good nowadays. Thank you for your great work!

[–] Bro666@lemmy.kde.social 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Lovely to hear. Thanks! We hope you enjoy it and please give us feedback so we can improve.

[–] warmaster@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

What's Vanilla Linux? Vanilla OS?

[–] Flatfire@lemmy.ca 18 points 4 weeks ago (6 children)

Plasma ended up being my DE of choice a year ago. Native Wayland support, HDR and VRR, and general adherence to the same Windows paradigm for managing apps/desktop shortcuts made things easy. I don't think that design is wrong, and it's been plenty efficient. It was also the only DE at the time that seemed to be prioritizing matching Windows features where they were clearly strongest rather than trying to pretend Windows had nothing to boast about at all.

Now, if we could talk about letting me enable display outputs without using the terminal that would be greeeeaaaat.

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[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 4 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Its sorta funny but I like kde overall but the windows like distro I use utilizes gnome and my setup is lazy install and go. I think it would make sense for the distro to use kde mainly but I think the distro is sorta lazy and uses ubuntu with changing as little as they have to for what they want.

[–] HiTekRedNek@lemm.ee 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

So if you use a *buntu based distro, but prefer kde, why not KDE neon?

[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

so its a string of lazy. I don't want to change anything more than I have to with my out of box distro and I think they don't want to deal outside base ubuntu for their changes. Honestly I have no idea how they decide to do their distro but they make the gnome feel like windows and their claim to fame is a desktop design switcher to have it be osx and many variations in the paid version.

[–] djsf@fosstodon.org 4 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

@kde@floss.social @Endof10 @kde@lemmy.kde.social

I have a Windows 11 / Kubuntu dual boot setup.

Windows 11 crashes about 1x per hour.

Kubuntu has never crashed.

[–] djsf@fosstodon.org 3 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

@kde@floss.social @Endof10 @kde@lemmy.kde.social also, the only reason i have Windows AT ALL is because Rekordbox (dj software) does not run on Linux. if it did, i would delete windows forever and never look back.

Rekordbox is also one of those softwares that i wish i didnt need to use at all.

im seeing a pattern here…

[–] turtle@lemm.ee 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Have you looked into Mixxx? I understand that it takes more after Serato than Rekordbox though. I haven't used any of them myself.

[–] djsf@fosstodon.org 2 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

@turtle I would definitely dump Rekordbox for Mixxx if I could stick to DJing with Controllers. but you need to have a Rekordbox formatted USB stick to use the Pioneer CDJs they usually have at clubs.

Pioneer really has professional DJs by the you know whats

[–] turtle@lemm.ee 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Oh, yikes, I had no idea! That sucks, sorry to hear it.

[–] djsf@fosstodon.org 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

@turtle yeahhh Alpha Theta is crafty like that.

they also seem to be positioning themselves to make old CDJ hardware obsolete soon. They've started pushing a new USB format called "Library Plus" that you need to use for new devices.

Once they stop supporting the original "Library (not plus)" format, old devices will be bricked permanently.

They haven't said that they're gonna do this, but it's pretty obvious.

[–] turtle@lemm.ee 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

It's always frustrating when supported for perfectly working old hardware is dropped. According to the Mixxx wiki, many hardware controllers are supported, including some Pioneer CDJ models: 350 / 850 / 2000. Many of them are community supported, indicating that more could potentially be added.

[–] djsf@fosstodon.org 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

@turtle my response to this? Skip the CDJs and just do live eurorack performance. Have I successfully done this yet? No. 😭

[–] turtle@lemm.ee 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

That sounds wild! I'm not a DJ but have some interest in it.

[–] djsf@fosstodon.org 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

@turtle it is wild! and difficult! hence why i have not done it yet lol but at least i won't be at the mercy of a predatory business model anymore

[–] turtle@lemm.ee 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

@djsf@fosstodon.org I can imagine! Are there any DJ controller manufacturers that are more reasonable in either supporting older hardware or making it more open so it's easier for other software to support?

[–] djsf@fosstodon.org 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

@turtle None that I'm aware of. And part of the problem is that almost all clubs use Pioneer. And when you perform you gotta use what they have, especially if you are part of a lineup.

[–] turtle@lemm.ee 1 points 3 weeks ago
[–] magitian@fedia.social 3 points 4 weeks ago

@kde @Endof10 @kde I've heard good things about a video editor called Kdenlive - maybe you could check it out? 😈

[–] Zoop@beehaw.org 3 points 4 weeks ago

That's a great page. Very well done! I'm sure it'll help a whole lot of people. Thank you for making it and sharing it!

[–] alteNBnordpfalz@pfalz.social 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

@kde@floss.social @Endof10 @kde@lemmy.kde.social Just terminal commands are gonna be a huge hurdle for Windows exiles. Had to have someone guide me through a bunch of code after the Nobara upgrade didn't install gpu drivers.

[–] HellsBelle@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 weeks ago

That's one of the best things about Linux tho ... no matter what flavour you're using you can always find someone to help you with it.

[–] Fredselfish@lemmy.world 2 points 4 weeks ago (3 children)

Exactly how can Windows break my computer. My wife has a computer still running Windows XP and it still works. She never connects it to the internet, think that's the way.

Will I be able to run my steam and Epic games with this? What about another PC games I own? And my hundreds of mp3 books and thousands of music files. I have them on internal harddrives. If I upgrade my main hard drive to this will I be able to access the files and docs on the two another drives?

[–] everett@lemmy.ml 4 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Will I be able to run my steam and Epic games with this? What about another PC games I own?

Possibly yes, and incressingly possible over time. Check out ProtonDB. Proton is built into Steam. I don't know anything about Epic.

And my hundreds of mp3 books and thousands of music files.

Absolutely yes.

I have them on internal harddrives. If I upgrade my main hard drive to this will I be able to access the files and docs on the two another drives?

Yep, there's support for multiple hard drives, and Linux can read NTFS-formatted drives. But what's more, Linux installers have long supported "guided partitioning," which helps you install the OS alongside an existing one like Windows, and then choose between the two when you boot. Of course, when you're installing any new OS, even Windows, you should make sure you have backups of all your stuff, just in case.

[–] DaddleDew@lemmy.world 4 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (1 children)

I still recommend getting a new SSD to install Linux on if you want to keep the ability to run your old Windows on that same machine. It is cheap, safe for both your Windows and Linux installs, usually allows you to take advantage of advancements in SSD speeds, lets you have access to your old files so you can transfer them over and makes the whole process far less terrifying.

At some point you'll realize you haven't used your Windows drive in a year and it will be a lot easier to make the decision to finally erase it all and repurpose the drive for something else.

[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 1 points 4 weeks ago (6 children)

At some point you’ll realize you haven’t used your Windows drive in a year and it will be a lot easier to make the decision to finally erase it all and repurpose the drive for something else.

It hasn't been a year yet but so far it's been the other way around for me (except for the VM I run my piracy stuff on and my media server, that's going great). I have been running into constant issues and annoyances trying to use Linux as my daily driver. Maybe if all I cared about was streaming content and gaming it would be fine but I couldn't even get through my taxes without having to switch back.

[–] ArsonButCute@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 4 weeks ago (5 children)

Do you have any use cases in particular that have been pain points? I'm a 20+ year user who helps folks make the switch as a hobby, I may have some advice for you.

[–] everett@lemmy.ml 3 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (1 children)

You, you seem like good people.

[–] ArsonButCute@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 4 weeks ago

I do my best! 🩷🌸🌷

[–] raptor85@mastodon.gamedev.place 3 points 3 weeks ago

@ArsonButCute @lightnsfw can't speak for him but most of the people I've helped their major pain points were literally that they never understood what they were doing, just which icons to click, to them IE WAS the internet and firefox was a "different" thing so they'd get frustrated no matter how many times they were told to click on firefox for the internet they'd claim the internet was missing.

Literally installing a windows icon pack/skin fixes 99% of the issues for many people.

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[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

At the moment the issues I'm dealing with are CAD No Fusion 360 on Linux and FreeCAD has ran like shit on every system I've tried and getting my peripherals working, mainly my Logitech stuff, mainly my g602 mouse but I also have a headset from them that doesn't work properly and from what I understand can't work properly on Linux. Another problem I had a few weeks ago was something killed the secure boot enrollment on my Linux os and it refused to boot at all or even get into repair mode even after I disabled secure boot. I had to completely reinstall it and start over which is not sustainable if that reoccurs with any sort of frequency.

[–] ArsonButCute@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 weeks ago

Re: fusion 360
https://github.com/cryinkfly/Autodesk-Fusion-360-for-Linux

This might interest you

Re Logitech G602
Sonaar allows for registration of devices to your Logitech Unifying reciever

Re Logitech Headset
Depending on your headset, this may help
https://github.com/Sapd/HeadsetControl

Re Secure Boot
I'm not sure if this is for an enterprise environment but if it is I would consider an LTS distribution. Otherwise I'm not personally sure what Secureboot would gain you from even being enabled other than preventing other operating systems from being booted. Your reasons for enabling it of course may be valid, but depending whether anyone else has physical access to that machine and what potential risks involved with another OS booting are, consider disabling it entirely.

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[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 3 points 4 weeks ago

games some but not all. music and video files no problem. I don't know of a disk format linux cannot use its only with windows that it does not natively read the unix ones. ntfs and fat should be no issue.

[–] lc_lol@framapiaf.org 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

@Fredselfish @kde yes, most of them, if not all. I recommend using heroic games launcher, it has a direct portal to get and install your epic and gog games. Don't hesitate to ask me if you need help 🙂

[–] Fredselfish@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

Thank you saving this for when I make that jump.

[–] BurningRiver@beehaw.org 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

So my PC will run W11 without a problem, but fuck that bloated mess. I have to use it on my work laptop and the number of times I’ve wanted to take a sledgehammer to it is innumerable.

I’ve settled on Bazzite because 90% of the time I’m playing steam games, but I’m having trouble understanding what (if anything) I need to do with my photos and music to migrate those over.

Also, I have 3 SSDs- 1 M.2 nvme for the OS, and 2 others for storage. After I back up my files to an external drive… and that’s where my knowledge of the process ends.

Anyone happen to know of any resources that can get me from the 1st grade understanding of Linux that I currently have to where I need to be to successfully migrate my PC?

[–] domi@lemmy.secnd.me 2 points 3 weeks ago

Bazzite has a guide on how to format and mount drives: https://docs.bazzite.gg/Advanced/Auto-Mounting_Secondary_Drives/

Let me know if there's something specific you need.

[–] Numerfolt@kirche.social 2 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

@kde@floss.social @kde@lemmy.kde.social Nice!
I would love helping to translate it to german, where would I head for that?

[–] duha@social.tchncs.de 5 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

@Numerfolt @kde@floss.social @kde@lemmy.kde.social

See: https://community.kde.org/Get/_Involved/translation

Easiest way is probaly to contact somone from the german team in via mailing list. They can guide you through the process

[–] Bro666@lemmy.kde.social 2 points 3 weeks ago

That is so kind. Danke!

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