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[–] Havald@lemmy.world 41 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I just want to change my battery and get a phone for that no people had to die In some poor country.

Like seriously, what's the percentage of people that run machine learning algorithms on their phone? 0.0000000001%?

[–] kirklennon@kbin.social 27 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Like seriously, what’s the percentage of people that run machine learning algorithms on their phone? 0.0000000001%?

It’s 100%. You use them on your phone all day every day. Your keyboard used machine learning algorithms as you typed your comment to dynamically adjust the size of the tap target of your likely next character and for autocorrect.

Every single photo taken on a phone is run through a huge amount of ML to create it.

All of this is to say, however, that this headline is ridiculous. Aside from Material UI, this is basically a description of every iPhone from the last half decade (with a dedicated “neural engine”). Not really a change in the smartphone world.

[–] Salamendacious@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Definitely a little bit of hyperbole with that headline. I think I have to use the exact headline the article uses though.

[–] rush@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I agree in the fact that some ML algorithms are used daily by nearly all who have a smartphone, but things like increasing the touch target is BS. It's quite easy to confirm by simply either looking at the code or enabling "show layout bounds" in Android's Developer Options.

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[–] Salamendacious@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I miss removable batteries so much. I was so disappointed that project aria never went anywhere

[–] Havald@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I need a new phone soon, can't really wait until the EU regulations force companies to build them with removable batteries. I need to look more into Fairphone, hope that's decent. Last review I read made me concerned about battery life, I really don't like charging my phone every day either. Or having to carry a power bank with me.

I don't think there's anything on the market that comes even close to the modularity aria had promised. Moto z had some mods but they dropped that very quickly unfortunately.

[–] be_gt@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My fairphone4 has been really good so far. If battery power is an issue you could just bring one spare but I haven't needed to do that yet

[–] Havald@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Bringing a spare is a good point. Less of a hassle than a power bank (although still not ideal). Battery life is pretty much the only thing I care about aside from longevity. Fairphone has longevity covered, maybe the review I read just made the battery life seem mich worse than it actually is. I'll have to look into it some more, thanks

[–] Salamendacious@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I have to do the power bank thing from time to time and it's definitely suboptimal. I think I can easily make it to the 9a though or maybe the 8a after some piece cuts. I used to play the "what's the new hotness" game and it's nice not being that gullible with my money anymore.

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[–] eumesmo@lemmings.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I was so hyped for project aria back then... It was so sad that it was discontinued.

[–] Salamendacious@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It was such a cool concept. I really don't care about how thin my phone is. I'd much rather be able to replace a broken screen easily. I'd love to be able to upgrade my camera or take the camera out and put a little more battery in it. I really hope they revisit the concept someday.

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[–] panja@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] transientpunk@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Many actions on modern phones use AI. Text to speech and image processing just to name two. I am very excited to not have that information being constantly sent to the cloud for processing.

[–] Salamendacious@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's my understanding that the Pixel camera hardware isn't that spectacular but boy-oh-boy the processed photos look spectacular.

[–] rush@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

the hardware is middle to low class, but they've taken a lot of time to optimize the software indeed

[–] vext01@lemmy.sdf.org 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Headphone jack? Sd slot? Replacable batt?

[–] Pons_Aelius@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

So pissed the new fairphone dropped the headphone jack.

[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

US doesn't even get a faiphone...

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[–] Mojojojo1993@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

What rubbish. It is exactly the same as every other smartphone on the planet. Updates are only new software and even then you could flash a new rom.

Click bait bullshit

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (3 children)

My big issue with the line has been no microSD slot. I won't buy a phone with locked memory capacity.

[–] Granixo@feddit.cl 14 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Same!

I also demand justice for the headphone jack!

[–] Salamendacious@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

I'm holding onto my 4a5g because I really really don't want to give up my headphone jack

[–] PanaX@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No love for removable batteries?

[–] Granixo@feddit.cl 2 points 1 year ago

That too.

But it definetly comes after the MicroSD and the headphone jack.

[–] AlmightySnoo@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Reposting their "Circle" ad for the Pixel 5a 5G because it was just brilliant:

"Circle" video ad

Too bad Google also later pulled the plug and abandoned the audio jack starting from the Pixel 6 series.

[–] Granixo@feddit.cl 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] AlmightySnoo@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Oh that might be your Lemmy app then. It's a compressed mp4 that I had uploaded to a Pixelfed instance, here's the original Youtube video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJZuSVl5wjM

[–] Granixo@feddit.cl 3 points 1 year ago

Yep, i use Jerboa 😅

And thanks for sharing the link 😁👍

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[–] Salamendacious@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I feel like phones provide enough disc space nowadays. I was never a huge fan of microSD slots to begin with. They're slower than internal storage and I've had one fail before and everything on it was lost. I had to factory reset the phone to get the slot working again. There might have been a better solution but I couldn't figure one out.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I have enough media to fill my phone about 4x over. I'd be lost without the expansion.

And no... "buh, buh, cloud storage!" is useless if you're not connected.

[–] Salamendacious@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Everyone has different needs. I just don't have any need for a microSD slot anymore and you seem to.

[–] Blizzard@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Do you record a lot of videos?

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

No, I have a bunch of media.

[–] kftX@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Is this year's Tensor an actual in-house chip or just another rebranded shitty Exynos?

Hats off to Samsung tho, kneecapping the competition 😂

[–] Salamendacious@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

this article says that it's based on its Exynos 2400

[–] rikonium@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I’m being a non-article-reading heathen here but of those three bullets I don’t think any is new to the smartphone industry - albeit Apple is cagey with support timelines (and probably slows down on what’s fixed versus the current iOS version) but the 5s technically got a iOS 12 patch this year.

[–] Salamendacious@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If a seven year update cycle becomes the norm for Android phones that would be revolutionary in my opinion. I have my doubts though.

[–] rush@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

meanwhile Fairphone on their way to do up to 10 years

[–] Salamendacious@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Very impressive. $700+ is unfortunately well out of my preferred price range. Especially if the battery issues I just read about are accurate.

[–] virtualbriefcase@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

They usually drop in price. They were just selling the 6a for $200 like a month ago, so given a bit of time you can get a good deal on the second-to-latest generation.

[–] ErikDegenerik@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

All that is worthless when the phone will be released without battery.

[–] IamRoot@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago
[–] phx@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago

Do the 7y updates also apply to the non-pro versions?

[–] Granixo@feddit.cl 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

The only thing that i want from Google right now is that they release Android 14.

[–] vector_zero@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Meanwhile, I want them to stop releasing shit. IMO Android peaked already, and it seems like every update over the last 5 years has made things slightly worse.

Have they made improvements? Yes, but each improvement has come bundled with several UI regressions.

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[–] jcrabapple@artemis.camp 2 points 1 year ago

There were some major last minute bugs so they're releasing it in October with the phone this time.

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