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You want to play at 4k on an old low end card. I'm sorry but this one is on you.

Have you tried just setting the resolution to 1920x1080 or are you literally trying to run AAA games at 4K on a card that was targeting 1080p when it was released, 4 and a half years ago?

It's not just insane power requirements. It's putting graphics bling ahead of playability and fun.

I recently bought Doom 2016 and Mosa Lina. I've had more fun with the latter than the former, even if I've been a Doom and Doom II player all my life.

!patientgamers@sh.itjust.works

I tend to play shit 2+ years old...

Once you detach your mind from the big publishers and start looking at small indie devs, there are truly astonishing games out there that could run on potatoes.

My good old RX 480 will last me for a while longer.

Obligatory reminder that Titanfall 2 is pretty great, runs great (its built on a modified Portal 2 era Source branch) looks great... and with Northstar, people figured out how to mod the client to work with custom servers and mods... and it all works on linux as well, literally has its own custom Proton branch.

But uh yeah, the new AAA graphics paradigm is:

Everything is a dynamic light, game devs don't optimize shit anymore because they're all being slave driven by corporate...

...because everything is built for stupid high graphical realism fidelity, few AAAs make any novel or engaging, fully fleshed actual gameplay...

But hey, nobody has to bake light and shadow maps anymore!

Assuming, of course, your card can support real time raytracing, which it can't, so we had to invent intelligent frame upscaling to replace well optimized AA methods, but that also isn't enough, so we had to invent (fake) frame gen.

Oh and all the cards that can do this are all sitting around double MSRP, because board partners can do whatever the fuck they want, and retailers don't even bother to attempt to stop scalpers.

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The 9060 XT launches this week, and its supposed to MSRP at $350, for the 16 gig model.

My guess is we will get maybe 12 hours of prices between $350 and $450 (for the fancier partner models)... and then $500 to $550 will be the new 'baseline' price for whatever is left by next week.

If you're planning on trying to get a 9060 XT, good fucking luck, you're almost certainly gonna need it.

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The GPU market is largely doing the same thing thats happened with cars, housing: everything is a luxury model, none to few viable economy options even get newly mfg'd, then the entire consumer base goes into debt to keep up their lifestyle, then all the debt bubbles pop and consumer spending ability craters... and... maybe then, 6 months to a year after that, the GPU mfg'rs could possibly start releasing actual economy models? Maybe?

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Either way, a whole lot of AAA studios are either going to keep monetizing harder and harder... or realize that as we enter this 2nd Great Depression... that shit ain't gonna work for a mass consumer base, people just won't have the money.

Or I guess Klarna and Afterpay come built in to GTA 6 Online shark card purchases.

Why not?

Idk man, I bought Sol Cesto yesterday, and I'm pretty sure my toaster could run it

Edit:

RX 6600, two 4k monitors

Bruh. I have a 3080 Ti and barely feel comfortable running my games in 2k. I'm pretty sure the 6600 was made with only 1080p and lower in mind.

There are new games?

In all serious, the indie scene is full of new games that don't require a new GPU to run. A Day of Maintenance and Ephipany City and Mouthwashing and Unsorted Horror and Cosmic Wheel of Sisterhood (to name the few specifically new games that I've played and really loved on my RX580, which is about 40% less powerful).

Okay I'm going to go against the grain, and will probably get downvoted to hell, but this is not new. This is PC gaming. This has always been PC gaming. Hot take - you don't need 4k@60fps to be able to have fun playing games.

New games require top of the line hardware (or hardware that doesn't even exist yet) for high-ultra settings. Always have, always will. (Hell, we had an entire meme about 'can it run crysis', a game that literally could only play on low-medium on even the highest level machines for a few years) Game makers want to make their games not just work now, but want them to look great in 5 years too. Unless you have shelled out over a grand this year for the absolute latest GPU, you should not expect any new game to run on great settings.

In fact, I do keep my PC fairly bleeding edge and I can't drive more than High settings on most games - and that's okay. Eventually I'll play them on Ultra, when hardware catches up. It's fine.

And as for low to mid level hardware I was there too - and that's just PC gaming friend. I played Borderlands and Left4Dead the year they came out on a very old Radeon card at 640x480 in windowed mode, medium settings, at about 40fps.

Again, this is just what PC gaming is. If you want crisp ultra graphics, you're gonna have to shell out the ultra payments. Otherwise, fine tuning low to medium payments, becoming okay with sub 60fps, this is all fairly normal.

Personally, when I upgrade I find great joy in going back and "rediscovering" some of the older games and playing them on ultra for the first time.

The reason has nothing to so with higher quality. They just do cost cutting of not having to create lighting and pass the cost on to the customer by having us raytrace and thus requires more horse power that GPU makers failed to deliver.

Hey man, I agree with you on principle but the fact is that you're trying to run new AAA games with an older card at 4K.

Time marches on, and graphics demands have changed. Newer cards are built differently and games are (albeit poorly) designed to utilize the new hardware.

6600 is a fine card but yeah, you're going to have to compromise somewhere. A lot of good advice here to tap into older games, or you can spend $180 and buy a good 1440p monitor and see if that opens up your options as well.

You're hermit crabbing into used parts on the cheap which is great, but if you're not willing to pay a pound of flesh for a new card then you're going to have to settle for reduced performance - it's that simple. Otherwise what's the point of making better hardware, if nothing takes advantage of it?

If you find yourself playing old games more and more, !retrogaming@lemmy.world or !retrohandhelds@sh.itjust.works might just be the communities you need to join if you haven’t already.

Another reason why I just installed fallout new Vegas

Hell is Us requires a 5600 XT to play (from looking at its minimum requirements on Steam), you have a 6600 so you should be good (obviously not at 4k though).

Also seeing the whole 4k thing, the monitors might not have been a mistake, but they are probably an investment for the future at this point when budget friendly 4k cards are a thing, until then, you'll have to rely on upscaling from lower resolutions (if thats possible with tools built into the game) or just playing in a non-native resolution (1080p) for new games.

hell is us is an extreme outlier when it comes to performance. and the rx 6600 isn't meant to run games at 4k period. you can probably still play most of the games on steam at 60fps+ on medium settings. high if you play at 1440p instead. yes there is a problem but I think you're over exaggerating a bit, especially considering you are playing at 4k.

Not the newest game but still newer, but one of my biggest gripes is how much you need to be able to run the newest Ratchet and Clank. I'm lucky my steam deck can run it or I'd be screwed.

Remember when oblivion came out? Or crysis? They were so hard to run that they became meme benchmarks lol

And now that "gaming" is incredibly mainstream, the push to be more and more marketable by investors by pushing technology in graphics because that's what sells.

Graphics too hard to run or not, I just want good games. And all this priority on intense graphical fidelity doth not maketh for many resources for the rest of the game and often shows a priority on PROFIT over all else.

Not buying games, for any reason, including you can't play them, is probably the best and healthiest thing to happen to gaming since indie gaming...

So, go, play your 15 year old games. Enjoy what's actually fun. The world will be a better place for it.

I've been a PC gamer for almost 30 years now. This perpetual march of buying new PC upgrades to play new games is an old song.

4k gaming is a scam. I've been using 1440p for 20 years and never had issues running every game that comes out at max settings.

there are fun games that dont require crazy gpus/monitors, you can enjoy + support those instead

I can't believe how poorly most Unity games run these days. We're talking fairly basic 2D games that are struggling to run well on hardware from this decade. It's really pathetic.