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This is the point of these laws. It's not to protect people it's to make existing in public impossible for trans people
It's not about bathrooms, it's certainly not about "protecting" anyone. They do not give two shits about actual assaults against women and children.
It's about sending a political message, a threat against a marginalized group that can be demonized for not fitting social norms, but is also not strong enough or connected enough to push back and rile up public support. Something like saying "You're not allowed to use the bathroom" is a deeply personal and sensitive topic that will absolutely crush someone of any group and it's prone to not getting the public attention that it needs. I mean, who wants to talk about how they need to shit?
It's been wildly successful too, because the people who actually care spend all their time in social-media echo-chambers, even like this one, instead of doing community organization and activism. Even suggesting it will probably draw in opposition here from people who feel helpless. And yeah, they'll be right, it's much, much harder now because we didn't do this shit back when the playing field was more level and this was just 4-chan trolls and reddit communities and there wasn't billions of dollars invested in the success of the of the distraction-campaign.
We can still turn this around but we can't do it the same way. We have to fight far, far dirtier, we have to make bot-armies, troll accounts, we have to put ourselves at risk, we have to directly target efforts towards libs and neo-libs who maybe, sorta, kinda care about issues that impact other citizens, but need a swift kick in the ass to realize they're on the wrong side of history. We have to project the image of mass-support at any opportunity. When you are talking or arguing about these issues, you have to do the same thing they did, which is play up that your movement is gaining support and momentum broadly, not withering under blistering hate and capitalist efforts. We have to be less afraid of wild rhetoric and playing uncivil. Be less afraid of negative attention. We have to call people bad words and be less afraid of offending our own side, because there are a lot of people on our side who aren't really.
We have to actually argue with our shitty uncle and not "let it go." We have to make friends in real-space and we have to hang out in public and be seen and stand united against hateful monsters.
We have to be that group of San Diego citizens who SHAMED a bunch of modern klansmen (ICE agents) into retreating from their neighborhood.
All the hard shit. You have to do that. You have to get real social real fast. Yeah, it does suck.
Yeah! It’s why a lot of the times when I think about leaving the house, I just don’t! The stochastic terrorism has worked!
Strobel said he plans on defending himself in court
That's a bad idea, even though he has an easy case (in theory).
Yeah and it's not just about how easy or hard the case is, lawyers know how to follow the rules, procedures, regulations etc. You're honestly just wasting your and the courts time even if you win.
why does anybody give a fuck what bathroom you use in the first fucking place
Because you might be a sexual predator, and a law banning trans people from bathrooms will definitely stop a rapist.
In other words, irrationality.
In the US, bathrooms didn't used to even have gender.
Was it White and Coloreds back then?
Yeah, but they were certainly segregated, and you see how well that worked out
my point exactly
These bigots continue to harass trans people.
These people are so illogical, it doesn't make any sense. It is just blind hatred. There is no data. Nothing that confirms their wrapped view or reality. In fact, these bigots are more likely to harm someone.
We need to ban orginized religion.
These genital obsessed freaks need to be shamed back into the shadows.
We also need people to start dressing up as ICE and disappearing prominent conservatives.
Even the largest pervert isn't as concerned with sexuality as much as the average religious dummy.
Just threaten to post their browser history. That should shut them up.
Gotta go put on your lady face and feel uncomfortable to use the restroom as a trans man now.
Can't make the straights feel things!
And we certainly can't have any ungendered bathrooms in public spaces. No siree.
/s (obv.)
Also speaking as a cis straight male, this is fucking stupid. Use whatever bathroom you feel comfortable going into, don't be a creep and certainly don't rape anyone.... Those directives may be targeted at different groups of people.... Just saying.
Be who you want to be.
The American obsession with bathroom segregation is weird. In other countries, women will sometimes use the men's bathroom when there's a long line in front of the women's and not the men's. Fathers needing to change a diaper on their kid sometimes use the baby changing station in the women's bathroom if that's where it's located (though that's increasingly being fixed).
This is not something that requires excessive legislation if you can avoid obsessing over other people's genitals.
America has terrible brain worms and a market set up so people are paid to make them worse not fix them
My favorite resturants are the ones that just removed both signs and have bathrooms.
Which one is male or female? Who knows!? Doesn't matter.
I've been waiting for a story like this to happen in the UK for a while now. When I saw this I was actually surprised to see it was in the US. It's only a matter of time, if it hasn't already happened.
Yeah - my understanding was that there was a carve out explicitly for trans men with that UK ruling, which effectively meant its illegal for trans men to piss in either bathroom? We aren’t men, but we also can’t use the women’s.
My state doesn’t have bathroom laws yet - except for in schools (and my dumbass thought - science teacher shortage! if I’m needed and doing something good I get to be a human being right?)
I'd also like to add... no one cares whos in what bathroom when you are in line at a portapotty do they? This shit is stupid.
So stupid. There's a good stand up bit that covers it - https://youtube.com/shorts/jrBlC3q0Fwo
On a different side of the coin, the virtue signaling also bothers me. I was at a fast casual restaurant and went to use the bathroom and the sign on the door said "Gender neutral bathroom" and I was like "oh word, that's pretty progressive I like this place" and then I walked in and there's one toilet and a sink and the door locks. Motherfucker, that's just a bathroom. You don't need to specify "gender neutral" when it's a one-person bathroom. Fuck outa here.
I've never seen a gender-neutral restroom that wasn't just a one-person bathroom though...
I have. Floor to ceiling stalls, with no gaps. It was great.
Yup, been in these and this is what I imagine when I hear "gender neutral bathroom" shared sink space and private stalls. Fully in support of this.
This should be the norm in any new construction. There's clearly room for it
Just shit in your hand and start throwing it at patrons. It's the only way
I hope that police department likes lawsuits.