I only have to have willpower at the grocery store. That's it. I'm too lazy to go get snacks if they aren't in the house.
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This may not be an option for you, but for me it's mildly easier if I make a pickup order. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
What worked for me: Don't have too much calorie dense and convenient food around. Track what I eat. Assume I ate 20% more calories withiut noticing. Get exercise doing interesting things like long walks in nature because it keeps me from snacking because I'm bored.
Worked for a few years, then of course I thought it wasn't necessary anymore and started adding weight back. Starting up again, and really the biggest weak point for me is still the impulsive snacking when I don't keep myself occupied.
Eliminating snacks was the biggest thing for me.
Nowadays on weekends I've also stopped eating breakfast and lunch unless I'm actually doing stuff that day. If I'm just sitting around not doing anything I don't need the energy, I can fast.
Vyvanse is an ADHD drug, but also is prescribed and approved as a weight loss drug, too. I lost a bunch of weight on it.
Just make sure you drink lots of water. It also suppresses your thirst response in your brain, so you can get dehydrated easily.
I eat less during the day, but will stuff my face in the evening when it has worn off.
Yeah I've had late night cravings with it. Usually mine wears off around bed time, though, so I just go to sleep. Lol
Beat saber VR is great cardio. Ring fit has a nice variety of workouts too.
beat saber is absolutely amazing, i wish my VR didn't break. i can stick to normal exercise for maybe a week, beat saber filled my brain with so much dopamine each time i played it regularly for months, Rum & Bass in 360 mode my beloved
Amphetamines?
I've found it's easier to create a set of rules that define my lifestyle than it is to commit to a diet. Like, think of strict keto as a way of living rather than a diet. Eat all you want, but sugar and carbs are no longer food. Don't focus on losing weight, focus on following the rules. The weight loss will happen in its own.
Exactly this. Being able to eat unlimited amounts is liberating and doesn't feel like a diet. On Keto there will be sugar withdrawal for the first few weeks, and that will be rough, but being able to stuff yourself with allowed food (cheese, meat, 100% chocolate, etc) makes it much more manageable.
I get tremendous joy from riding my bike. I bought a used one but a good one and it feels like flying. I go out 2-3 a day if I'm not working. It doesn't feel like exercise.
Me too but I'm in my 40s and exercise alone isn't enough anymore.
There has been exactly one thing that worked for me (other than the new relationship high when you do things with your new partner all the time, go places, lots of activity and little time for hunger. This is not sustainable though)
I watched 2 bears 1 cave when it started because I like comedy, Bert is funny and honestly a caricature unto himself, and it didn't have as many annoying sponsor segments. Anyway, they were talking about what they were doing for Sober October and Bert, who seems to have a lot of problems similar to mine, said he was trying One Meal A Day and it felt like the first time in a looong time that his mind was sharpish and he didn't feel the constant need to snack. So I tried it, lost 25 KG over 4 months (healthy loss, I never felt starved, I just had a high starting weight) and gained half of it back from COVID lockdown. FML. Rest came back over the next 3 years of working mostly from home and not having the spine to stick to it again. But when I was doing it, starting day 2 or 3 I did feel sort of... Free. The constant blood sugar rush-crash cycle was no more.
TL;DR: One Meal a Day. It's awesome. No you won't feel hungry all day.
I do omad too and have lost 50 lbs this year and am closing in on my goal weight but have 0 desire to stop omad. I’ll just eat a bigger meal to start maintaining. Nothing really to add other than it’s easy and works.
For me it's about planning. If I know what's for dinner I can handle it even if I'm not in the mood for whatever I've got planned for dinner. If I'm hungry and then start looking for food I'm far more likely to fail.
Usually what I do is just stop eating/barely eat at all. Keep this up for weeks and weeks and you will lose weight fast. And its easy. Its less work to do this than to workout or change your diet (in a different way). You can also distract yourself so you don’t focus on the hunger that you feel. Give it a shot and lmk
Tbh I also do this. While my body is in ketosis (eg just woke up) it's way easier to ignore food drive. The second I taste any good though, my body wakes up like "oh its FOOD time now??" and my appetite rages for the rest of the day.
It's risky to completely abstain for a long time though, because fat is only calories, not nutrient. You'll end up with a lot of deficiencies the longer you do it.
I recommend eating a proper meal every now and then, or at least do research on fasting and drink lots of water (prevent kidney stones) and take multivitamin supplements. Consider also asking to your doctor about what you're doing so they can inform you of risks and how to mitigate them
At a minimum electrolytes: magnesium, potassium, sodium
The big danger when fasting is actually getting off the fast. If it's a prolonged fast there is the risk of refeeding syndrome where the body can mobilize too many electrolytes too quickly.
If someone fasts for more then 5 days they should be under medical supervision when they stop fasting (at least the first time).
The protocol is basically eat a tiny amount of zero carb food for a few meals increasing the amount very slowly and supplementing with electrolytes. Like half a hard boiled egg, then 4 hours later a whole egg, then two, etc
It's easy if you can hyperfocus on something all day and neglect eating.
Wait can other ADHDudes just turn it on like a faucet? For me it's like an hourly lottery.
Use the focus sessions to meal prep and work on portion control. That's all i got. I'm a wreck as far as a routine or schedule goes lol
take all this with a grain of salt
if you don't need to lose weight immediately for health reasons, focus less on weight loss and more on making healthy habits feel natural
regarding eating, i'd say the following are essential:
- avoid getting hungry
- food should be as tasty as possible. you have to actually like what you're eating
- no forbidden food. do not try to take anything away from your diet
- absolutely NO strict rules in general. they're bad enough for neurotypicals, so they're fatal to us
- introduce healthy food you like. if you can, start with fruits, lots of fruits. fruits are the easiest kind of tasty healthy food
- try to eat on time as much as possible. kind of a corollary of "avoid getting hungry"
- have go-to foods you can eat at each meal/whenever you get hungry without thinking. one of mine is strawberry smoothie
- don't eat anything you don't like. it doesn't matter how healthy it is, if you hate it, it's bad for you. there's plenty of healthy food out there
- give a chance to foods you don't like too much once in a while. maybe you'll end up liking them eventually, maybe not. just try and you'll find out
- above all else, make any of these changes incrementally. the point is building solid habits, not having a solid diet from the get go
any of these follow from: eating is one of the most important things in our life; never make yourself feel bad while trying to get healthy.
good luck
Whenever you want to eat junk food, take of your clothes and stand in front of the mirror.
Sir, this is a Wendy's!
Hm?
For me, hyper fixate on calorie counting and weight tracking plus going to the gym while listening to a book I can't get enough of.
From ~260 to 180 over nearly 3 years.
A lot of focus on diet in these comments but almost no mention of exercise.
For me, I found the couch to 5K running program for beginners highly engaging. With a running tracker app I could see my progress and really enjoy fixating on the details. If you do decide to get into running here are some tips:
- Really good running shoes are a must. Take your time trying on shoes until you find the right pair. They should feel extremely comfortable in the store, like a pair of bedroom slippers, and there should be no rubbing of parts of your feet/toes while walking around. They’re expensive to buy but much cheaper than any gym membership
- Other nice to haves are good shorts and shirts made of breathable material
- Don’t try to skip ahead on the C25K program. You really do need to take it gradually or you will feel a lot of pain and give up
- Some pain is normal though but eventually it all clears up and starts to feel amazing (as your distances go up)
- If the pain gets worse and worse then slow down or stop. Some level of soreness / fatigue is normal until you’re an experienced runner. Severe pain is not normal and could indicate or lead to injury
- If you’re running out of breath then you’re running too fast. The goal of running is to run, not sprint, which means staying entirely in the aerobic zone. Learning to regulate your pace and your breathing is challenging at first but soon becomes natural
- If you’re overweight then you probably need to go even slower than the C25K program recommends. Spend a lot more time walking than running and be mindful of your joints. You should not be taking big running strides or striking your heels. Try to be very mindful of your joints and if they hurt then slow down or stop. You can lose weight just by walking a lot while improving your diet but trying to force yourself to run while overweight can harm your joints or cause other injuries
So why run at all? Well, besides the obvious exercise and cardiovascular health benefits, running is a lot of fun. It actually feels amazing to be running on a beautiful morning/evening and seeing the world go by at a rapid pace, the wind blowing gently in your hair. Running releases endorphins which feel amazing and give you a “runner’s high”.
Furthermore, the cardio fitness benefits of running extend to everything else in life. You’ll sleep better, you’ll feel better all the time, you’ll develop a slower resting heart rate which allows you to relax much more deeply, and you’ll feel more awake and better able to focus rather than being in a fog for much of the time.
but almost no mention of exercise.
For most people weight is 90% diet and 10% exercise. There is a reason the phrase "You can't outrun a bad diet" is often used in health contexts. Can it work for some people, sure! However, for most people getting the foundational of health straight first (the food) has the biggest impact.
My best shape as an adult was when I was running 12k 3x a week. I felt amazing. Since then I had a bad ankle sprain (at work, funnily enough, not related to running at all) and haven’t recovered properly enough to get back to running, though I still hope to.
I remember reading once that Michael Phelps would eat something like 12000 calories per day during training. That’s far more than I’ve ever eaten in one day, even at my heaviest. I probably haven’t even eaten half that much in one day.
Have a calorie tracking app and track everything. You will start to learn how somethings are more calorie dense than others. Don't have junk food. You will want to snack. Have veggies like carrots or fresh fruit on hand. Drink water first. So many times I "feel" hungry but I am actually thirsty. Load up on broccoli. If you over eat, then have lots of broccoli. It's filling and not calorie dense. When possible plan your meals ahead of time. It's brutally hard to make the better diet choice when your hungry. It's easier to just follow through with a decision you already made.
As a fellow ADHD person, this is a really hard one to maintain, but the really important thing here is just being conscious of the difference in calories between different food groups, then learning for each ~100 calories you eat, you have to walk a mile just to burn it off.
I have definitely used my difficulty starting tasks to help myself lose weight. I find its way easier to just be hungry than to make food. Most of the time.
I still have to make sure I'm not eating snacks without thinking about it. A good option for me has been keeping easy, small, healthy foods, that can get me through hunger pang. My favorite is a pot of Greek yogurt. They're like 80¢ at Aldi where I live. Fresh fruit works great as well! And for late night treats, I eat frozen fruit. It fills the ice cream niche, without being packed with calories and extra sugar
I'm about to try Nutrisystem. Here's hoping.
When I was in the best shape of my life, I was taking a karate class. We met every Tuesday and Thursday, and the only penalty for missing a class, was the razzing you'd get from the rest of the class. Nothing mean, just stuff like "someone must have been feeling lazy on Tuesday!"
That low pressure accountability made me go every time. If it was any more or less strict, I'd probably would have just ended up never going.
So, how do you recreate that? Find a friend or two with similar goals and set a plan. It'll be harder to "just skip this one" if you know someone's expecting you.
One day, try going the whole day on just water. Pick your day carefully so you are free to do nothing if you choose.
Whenever you get hungry, pause, drink a glass of water, and check in with yourself. Odds are you aren't that physically hungry, but your mind is going ape shit trying to get you to eat.
You don't have to go crazy here, if you start not feeling well, then eat.
Try that again a few times at your leisure, but aim to actually go a full day at some point.
The point of that exercise isn't to lose weight per se, it's to gain a better understanding of how much of your eating habits are mental/psychological and also to show yourself that you have the ability to go a full day without food, so when a random Tuesday rolls around and you're slightly peckish, you can grab a banana and get past it rather than going bananas at a Chinese buffet and downloading five thousand empty calories into your gut.
That is an imperfect approach, but it helps you get to know yourself and provide context for how "hungry" you are when it's two hours past breakfast and two hours until lunch.
Obviously don't do this if you have any kind of medical condition that requires you to eat. I am not a doctor.
I'll back this up. That's what started my weight loss journey. I felt like crap after having eaten way too much on Christmas. I stumbled upon a conduit called Eat Stop Eat, which is basically a 24 hour water fast. It's a lot easier to get into than a longer fast, since if you've just eaten lunch, you only have to wait until lunch the next day.
I don't notice body signals when I hyperfocus, so if I eat a good breakfast on my days off, and don't keep s ack food around, I might go all the way to bedtime without another meal. I think that's called intermittent fasting?
But fr, the main thing that helped me was accountability. I used one of those paid apps that turn tracking and nutrition into a group activity and partially gamify it. I got lucky with a good coach and a good group but it did help. Just knowing that someone was looking over my shoulder to make sure I did the food logging made it easier to remember to do. And the "numbers go bigger" part of my brain turned out to like "numbers go smaller", so the gamification helped too.
Do you mind sharing the app you used?
I used Noom, got a pretty good trial price and then extended it.
Thanks. Noom didn't work for me 🫤
My ADHD had me writing a cooking blog intro about how I discovered this but I'll spare you:
The catch-all answer is water. But for ADHDers with oral fixations (both of us, apparently), the real answer is powdered drink mixed.
You'll stop wanting a snack if your 0 calorie drink tastes good.
I didn't buy it for weight loss but my water bottle has electrolyte powder every day. I use half the recommended amount (don't wanna overdose) and it completely replaced food as my go-to when I'm not sure if I'm bored or hungry.
I'd like to try this strategy. Hey Lemmy, is there a "hydro homies" community yet?