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I've been hiding in a builders merchant for the last month, but thought I'd poke my head out to say thankyou for writing this up.
Giving a framework for discussion, but making it clear that using it as a stick to beat trans people with will not be tolerated, is a very good way to organise things.
the title makes it sound like this is a post on how to be transphobic. it's very funny pls don't change it.
Step One: write a harry potter book
Step two: Open an X account
Step 3: Buy a massive mouldy castle in scotland
Step zero point five: absolutely butcher Latin
I think you mean "carnifico Latinum!"
Thank you! I appreciate the work you've put in to this!
Glad to see blahaj is refederated with .uk now.
I appreciate the care you've put into this. By choosing a neutral tone, you have created a framework that allows for opposing viewpoints to exist in discussions of the topic so long as the participants stay within established guidelines. I believe that this approach is an even-handed way to limit fanaticism and promote acceptance.
Perfection, though sometimes alluring, is an exhausting pursuit. What you've accomplished is realistic, immediately applicable, and amendable. In my opinion, that is infinitely more useful than the ever-fleeting notion of attainable perfection.
Well done, in both the creation of the document and in your personal effort to not allow perfectionism to stand in the way of something good.
Great initiative. Looks pretty well written from my point of view.
What's going to happen to repeated guideline breakers ?
Depends on which guideline they break. The 41% one will probably be an insta-ban. Others will likely be an initial warning followed by temp bans escalating to a permaban.
I'm trans and I learned a lot myself from this. I might have brought up the 41% thing and not knowing its use, miscommunicated what I meant in support of trans rights. Glad to have read this, being trans doesn't automatically make you aware of every aspect of the conversations.
I imagine it would still depend on context. The guidelines don't say that the 41% figure is inaccurate (and from some extremely light googling of the cited organisation, ASFSP doesn't appear to be an anti trans pressure group so i'm inclined to take that figure on its face value). thus talking about that figure in the context of a wider discussion on trans issues, which absolutely includes a sky high suicide rate, is probably fine.
But as the guidelines say; using that figure to encourage someone to commit suicide is almost certainly a contravention. As is using it to justify ignoring a trans person or trans persons basic right to self determination
That said i'm not a mod, i'm not in their heads, so i could be wrong
Just want to point out that suicide rates/attempts are more a reflection of the way transgender people are treated than a some kind of pervasive mental illness. High-functioning autistic people also have very high rates of suicidal ideation and attempts, because--much like transgender people--they (we) tend to be socially isolated and ostracized. Transgender people that are in accepting communities and who have non-shitty parents tend to have much, much lower rates of suicidal ideation and attempts.
That's a really concise, clear and well written guide. Worth reading for general life, not just for feddit.
Thanks for taking the time to put that together :)
This is generally very clear and well written, but I would clarify that while using 'biological man/woman' may be a misinformed/malicious may to refer to cis people, using 'biological male/female/intersex' to refer to one's own biological sex is in fact a relatively common term that many trans people (such as myself) prefer to AGAB
Good point, that's definitely something I see fairly often. I don't like it myself (also trans), but should be on here.
Especially as all A*AB terms easily mistaken for "All * are Bastards" ala ACAB.
I do it the other way around, Assigned Cop At Birth
It’s always sad to see a baby born with a mustache, mirrored sunglasses, and a racial slur on its lips
Come on. No one needs that image placed on the mind.
Really great to see this. You’ve clearly put in some serious thought and reflection to come up with something that draws a sensible line in the sand.
Thank you for this!
Thank you for addressing this!
I was going to facetiously say
But those guidelines are a pretty good description of how to follow step 1 on this issue, so let's adjust it to
That is awesome! I can't even find anything to complain about, and I'm a whiner.
No bullshit, doing that is an act of goodness, and I'd hug your neck if we ever met.
Very well written, clear and concise! Thanks for putting the time and effort into creating this.
Well written and well judged. You and others in the feddit.uk admin team continue to be an exemplar.
Good update, thank you for doing this
This is very helpful. Thank you.
Excellent writeup! I love seeing these.
Minor spelling mistake: The heading 'Transgenerism'/Gender ideology is missing a "d".