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[–] underline960@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 hour ago

I wish there was a test.

Not a bullshit CosmoBuzzfeed quiz, but an actual "if you answered A on these three questions, you tend towards MarxoCapitalist. Here's a community full of people who mostly agree with you about political stuff."

We'd still have Home and Local and All, but it'd be nice to know who my people are instead of needing a college degree to navigate the bullshit everyone says about everyone else.

I don't think anyone knows what socialism is.

[–] BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

I don't subscribe to an ideology per se, but I believe we should give everybody everything, and that the government should take care of every one of our needs, every last one.

[–] Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

I don't like other leftists. What am I?

[–] MisterOwl@lemmy.world 1 points 22 minutes ago

Leftist. 🙂

[–] paranoia@feddit.dk 10 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (2 children)

Idk. The kind where I believe that every adult over 18 should be given 80m2 by the government. Apartment, office space, storage space, workshop, lab, whatever.

I believe that you shouldn't need to worry about a place to live at the bare minimum, and I believe that not having space for people to use and experiment with is one of the main hindrances of economic development (development, not "growth")

[–] ricecake@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 hour ago

It took me too long to figure out that you're the ubi-style left, and not the pew-pew style and I didn't know what type of gun an 80M2 was. 80M^2 or 80 square meters is super different from what I was picturing.

[–] Waraugh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 hours ago

They can keep all the other stuff if they are giving me 6,400 million dollars

[–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 1 points 3 hours ago

Anarcho-transhumanist. I believe that you just can't trust humans to govern each other, so the best solution is give them all the tools to survive independently.

[–] Afflictedlife@lemmy.ml 4 points 4 hours ago

As far as I can tell I'm an anarchist collectivist. But I don't really read much theory (because of a memory retention disorder) or try very hard to categorize myself.

[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 12 points 6 hours ago
[–] xor@lemmy.dbzer0.com -4 points 3 hours ago

ah yes, because leftists are such unreasonable people always fighting each other

[–] 13igTyme@lemmy.world 15 points 9 hours ago (4 children)

What kind am I?

Not a neo liberal or a Tankie.

I'm in-between. I'm caring enough to not agree with Conservatives and want a change to the status quo. I'm educated enough to know how the world actually works and that things can't be free and other people won't do stuff for free. Capitalism has its place, but needs to be highly regulated.

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

I am not going to prod you the minutia with questions and then try to guess precisely what ideological camp you might fall into, but from what I can gather from your comment, you could either be a social liberal or social democrat. But practically speaking, there is hardly any difference between the two.

[–] Schmoo@slrpnk.net 11 points 6 hours ago (3 children)

You can be anti-capitalist without being a "tankie." It seems like your position is driven by your aversion to those you perceive as being to your right and to your left rather than on a consistent ideological framework.

I'm educated enough to know how the world actually works and that things can't be free and other people won't do stuff for free.

This is capitalist realism. Your education has not made you smart enough to see that capitalism is reality, it has made you so set in your constrained worldview that you've become incapable of imagining anything outside of the framework of capitalism. For the majority of time that humans have existed on earth they have organized themselves in a myriad of different ways without the need for private property and exploitation of others. I recommend reading some anthropology, I personally prefer David Graeber.

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[–] droans@midwest.social 7 points 8 hours ago

Even Adam Smith was pretty clear what happens when capitalism is unregulated:

We rarely hear, it has been said, of the combinations of masters, though frequently of those of workmen. But whoever imagines, upon this account, that masters rarely combine, is as ignorant of the world as of the subject. Masters are always and everywhere in a sort of tacit, but constant and uniform combination, not to raise the wages of labour above their actual rate. To violate this combination is everywhere a most unpopular action, and a sort of reproach to a master among his neighbours and equals. We seldom, indeed, hear of this combination, because it is the usual, and one may say, the natural state of things, which nobody ever hears of...

The liberal reward of labour, therefore, as it is the necessary effect, so it is the natural symptom of increasing national wealth. The scanty maintenance of the labouring poor, on the other hand, is the natural symptom that things are at a stand, and their starving condition that they are going fast backwards.

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[–] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 8 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

flexible on range of solutions for dealing with the billionaire problem

[–] But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world 8 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

“Ally? That’s a funny way to spell FASCIST!”

-the American left during the 24’ election

[–] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 3 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Your parties are seriously a mess, though. Sorry to say. Yes, come the vote under a FPTP duopoly I agree maximum impact is to vote for the lesser of the two, but I honestly don't think much is going to change for you guys if all you do is vote.

[–] bss03@infosec.pub 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

I honestly don’t think much is going to change for you guys if all you do is vote.

As an American, I agree. That said, I find it hard to do more due to my situation.

But, voting is the beginning of political engagement, not the end. It's probably time for a general strike, but even failing that, finding primary challengers (or being one), drafting voter initiatives and gathering signatures for all of the above, communicating with your representatives, legal protest. It's also possible to work outside or even against the system, founding or being active in non-governmental community organizations, illegal protest, sabotage.

Even if we had a "perfect" voting system (Arrow's Impossibility Theorem aside), there are going to be times when the majority compromise is just wrong, and "getting political" is how you change/survive that.

(I'm all for voting system improvements. I'm a big fan of Condorcet methods, and I'd like to see more direct democracy. We could even adapt a system like Debian's "default option" of "more discussion" so that issues could remain open while a quorum was gathered / the voters suitably engaged to decide one way or another.)

[–] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 hour ago

That was a great breakdown of a continuum of ways to be politically active all the way from voting to increasingly pointed forms of direct action.

It would make a great post. Maybe even an infographic.

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[–] Phegan@lemmy.world 44 points 14 hours ago (12 children)

I just want people to have food, shelter and healthcare at an affordable price.

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