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hurts less than getting eaten by a coyote (lemmy.ml)
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[–] Tudsamfa@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

I believe discussion on this flares up now and then because it is an easy answer, tough decision.

If you make this decision for others: of course this is the most ethical thing to do, the data isn't ambiguous.

If you are yourself affected: Oof. Yes it might be better for society, but personally I value this and that, and I am but one and would rather wait on legislation before I do anything.

We love to argue it because one side thinks experiencing it taints your view, the other that only reading data misses the point. Can be about indoor cats, vegan diets or pineapple on pizza, the argument itself never matters.

[–] Crazyblu@lemmy.zip 6 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

Why do we let humans go outside ???

[–] Anomalocaris@lemm.ee 4 points 8 hours ago

to feed the bears

[–] ThatGuy46475@lemmy.world 2 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

We’re too big for coyotes, know to stay away from bears, and can tell other people if we need rabies shots

[–] ThunderclapSasquatch@startrek.website 1 points 10 hours ago

You're only too big for a coyote, packs will hunt lone humans

[–] FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone 60 points 23 hours ago (3 children)

Get a catio.

Don’t let cats kill more birds and amphibians. Cats being let outside has contributed to the extinction of countless species.

[–] DrownedRats@lemmy.world 14 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

Also, lead walking! Most cats can be trained to be very receptive to lead walking especially if you start them young. Your cat still gets the enrichment from walking around outside and all the lovely smells and sights that entails but without the danger of cars or the cat killing everything is feels like.

[–] fireweed@lemmy.world 8 points 18 hours ago

Walking your cat is a great way to get them outside, but (depending on the individual) it's quite different from walking a dog. Most cats aren't very interested in the actual walking part of walks, and may be much happier finding a nice bush to sit under for half an hour. However a leash is a great way to keep your cat supervised and under control for outside visits, either in the back yard, around the block, or to a nearby park.

Other warnings: starting them young is ideal, but older cats can get used to the leash with a lot of patience (on both of your parts). Cats that were previously outdoor cats will have the most trouble adjusting to their loss of freedom, but indoor-only cats may be excited for the opportunity (or terrified: pushing your cat a little out of their comfort zone is okay but don't overdo it!). A well-fitting harness/vest is crucial, and even then a very determined (or scared) cat can probably wriggle out so be prepared. Keep a very close eye on your cat's emotional state and be ready to go home at signs of anxiety. Low-stress outdoor places (with few cars, dogs, screaming kids, etc, and with some form of cover like trees and bushes) are best especially to start. Treats and verbal encouragement, paired with small steps and lots of patience, are key! Above all stay consistent: once you've made the decision to make your cat leash-only, don't let them go outside without it: your cat needs to make the connection that they have to be on a leash if they want to enjoy the outside.

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[–] Dorkyd68@lemmy.world 6 points 16 hours ago

I used to see Cardinals everywhere in my back yard wonder if my neighbors shit head orange keeps killing them

[–] wpb@lemmy.world 8 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

I know they do a lot of killing and they fuck up the local ecosystem, but I never knew they actually made extinctions happen. What species?

[–] FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone 21 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 children)

https://gizmodo.com/8-species-driven-toward-extinction-by-cats-1848059691

Over half of pet cats in the U.S. spend time outside, and worldwide the animals have contributed to the extinction of at least 33 species, according to the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service.

Sadly, it’s already too late for dozens of species, including the Stephens Island wren (a flightless songbird), the crescent nailtail wallaby, and the adorable desert bandicoot.

[Suprise the Trump admin seems to have taken that page down — sure there is an archive tho]

[–] wpb@lemmy.world 9 points 20 hours ago

That is absolutely crazy. Thanks for sharing!

[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 74 points 1 day ago (66 children)

Bigger issue imo is cats destroying wild life not the wild life destroying cats. Either way, keep your cat inside.

[–] Anomalocaris@lemm.ee 0 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

tbf, in most urban/sub urban areas, it's too late already.

[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 2 points 8 hours ago

Its not, nature can recover very quickly given the right respect

[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 16 points 22 hours ago

So, now you're starving coyotes?

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