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[–] drunkpostdisaster@lemmy.world -1 points 14 hours ago

AI is probably the worst invention sense the atom bomb.

[–] p3n@lemmy.world 79 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Is it really screwing up the education system, or is it just revealing how screwed up it already was?

[–] kamen@lemmy.world 25 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

Came here to say that. If AI has the leeway to affect things in a negative way, then we're not focusing on the right things to begin with. If kids are graded sometimes for the amount of (not necessarily coherent and sound) text they're able to spit out, this is what you get.

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[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The corrupt cheapskates trying to nickel and dime every ISD in the country to bankruptcy absolutely fell over one another at the opportunity to fire staff and replace them with Clippy.

Twenty years ago, state officials were all fawning over the idea of turning every university in the country into a pile subscription based Udemy online courses. Ten years ago, letting Pearson hijack the lesson plan of every classroom in the country was the dream. This has been a long time coming.

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[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

What's breathtaking is how clueless education system administrators are failing at their jobs. They've been screwing up the system for a very long time, and now they have a whole new set of shiny objects to spend your money on.

[–] aidan@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

In my former school district they paid a ton to some consultancy firm to "use AI to optimize the bus route". The first day of testing the new route many kids didn't get home until after 9pm. They cancelled school for the rest of the week and then immediately reverted to the old route.

[–] Epic@lemm.ee 2 points 23 hours ago

lol , piret getting robbed kind of situation we are in

[–] Eggyhead@lemmings.world 150 points 2 days ago (58 children)

NGL, it’s really f*cking depressing when you give students 30m to create something of their own imagination, and they do it in the first minute with chatGPT and spend the other 29m playing games the phone and asking to “go to the bathroom” whenever they notice someone in the hallway.

The excuses you hear when you do something so oppressive as to request they keep their phones in their own backpacks for the duration of the task.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 81 points 2 days ago (18 children)

I regularly advocate for banning phones from schools but people here in Lemmy (same on Reddit years ago) completely lose their shit with that idea, start talking how that'll leave them defenseless in an emergency, how it is torture, how they absolutely can't live without them

Not thirty years ago nobody had cellphones in school, they barely existed, and everything was fine, everyone was fine without and with cellphones I see so much shit going on. Yes, it's the Future, kids need cellphones, but they also need to learn to be without cellphone, and they need to learn responsible use.

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[–] ramble81@lemm.ee 34 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Ngl. I bought a signal jammer for my wife to use in her classroom (after all, it said “for educational purposes only”) and the kids could never figure out why the signal sucked so bad in her classroom during class times. She never got caught using it and never had to worry about them being on their phones.

If there was an emergency, people would just call the front office and they could always reach her on the land line in the classroom.

[–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Violating federal laws is awesome, everyone should do it.

[–] RaoulDook@lemmy.world 3 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

"Removed by mod" haha

[–] ramble81@lemm.ee 6 points 1 day ago

If it’s good enough for the President! /s

[–] AtariDump@lemmy.world 38 points 1 day ago

(after all, it said “for educational purposes only”)

The FCC hates this one simple trick

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[–] happydoors@lemm.ee 12 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Unfortunately, I think many kids could easily approach AI the same way older generations thought of math, calculators, and the infamous “you won’t have a calculator with you everywhere.” If I was a kid today and I knew I didn’t have to know everything because I could just look it up, instantly; I too would become quite lazy. Even if the AI now can’t do it, they are smart enough to know AI in 10 years will. I’m not saying this is right, but I see how many kids would end up there.

[–] JackFrostNCola@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (4 children)

This could be complete bullshit because im not an expert but i sometimes think that we could have a future where without testing and nurturing peoples critical thinking skills we end up with people who dont know how to create a rational argument or assess information they are given for its accuracy and authenticity, or to know when they are being deceived by malicious actors.

English writing assignments as simple as a book report require you to take different views and angles on something to understand it better and the nuances of the whole, but tell a LLM to write it for you and you are not developing that part of your own mind where you may learn to do things like see the whole story above the individual events noise, see things from others perspective/feelings and understand alternate world views. These are critical for having empathy for others and understanding the world around you.
And that is just one small example i came up with.

[–] gadfly1999@lemm.ee 3 points 1 day ago

We are already there. Just look at the state of society right now and observe the critical thinking and media literacy skills of the average person.

In the words of cyberpunk author Wiilam Gibson: “The future is already here – it’s just not very evenly distributed.“

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[–] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (6 children)

We’ve been needing to rework education for years now anyway. At least this will force the teachers to change & adapt, whether they like it or not.

[–] Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works 1 points 20 hours ago

What teachers?

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[–] WanderingThoughts@europe.pub 56 points 1 day ago (26 children)

That's going to be great fun when the AI bubble pops and the subscription prices go up exponentially.

On the other hand, there have been other opinions about education that say it should be about making or researching something. Give a student a goal and let them figure it out using chatbots or whatever.

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[–] astro_ray@piefed.social 107 points 2 days ago (11 children)

TBH, I'd AI can screw up the education system so fast then it is the fault in the education system. AI is bad, but our education system is not good either.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 97 points 2 days ago (12 children)

but our education system is not good either.

No Child Left Behind has fucked us for over 20 years...

People are blaming these college kids, but their entire k-12 was under No Child, they were never taught critical thinking, what the fuck are they supposed to do? No one ever taught these kids to think for themselves.

We failed an entire generation, and it's too late to fix it for them now, the best we can do is fix it for the kids that will start public education in a few years.

But we'll be paying the price for decades

[–] danc4498@lemmy.world 85 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Like all things republican, you ruin the public service, then tell everybody we need to get rid of this public service cause only the free market can provide that service in good quality.

Vouchers will save us our children!

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[–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 52 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Going to have generations of people unable to think analytically or creatively, and just as bad, entering fields that require a real detailed knowledge of the subject and they don't. Going to see a lot of fuck ups in engineering, medicine, etc because of people faking it.

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[–] Norin@lemmy.world 70 points 2 days ago (6 children)

I teach at a community college. I see a lot of AI nonsense in my assignments.

So much so that I’m considering blue book exams for the fall.

[–] Gloria@sh.itjust.works 65 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

For anyone who is also not from the US:

A blue book exam is a type of test administered at many post-secondary schools in the United States. Blue book exams typically include one or more essays or short-answer questions. Sometimes the instructor will provide students with a list of possible essay topics prior to the test itself and will then choose one or let the student choose from two or more topics that appear on the test.

EDIT, as an extra to solve the mystery:

Butler University in Indianapolis was the first to introduce exam blue books, which first appeared in the late 1920s.[1] They were given a blue color because Butler's school colors are blue and white; therefore they were named "blue books".

[–] errer@lemmy.world 60 points 2 days ago (13 children)

Importantly it is hand written, no computers.

Biggest issue is that kids’ handwriting often sucks. That’s not a new problem but it’s a problem with handwritten work.

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