Mainly because Norwegians are pretty tall
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A gilded cage is still a cage. I’d rather work and pay rent and live in a modest apartment than be imprisoned in a luxury hotel that I’m not allowed to leave. Prisoners in Halden prison don’t get to set their own schedule, don’t get to quit being a prisoner and move across the country, don’t get to code with whom they live and associate.
Even with a minimum wage job you can save up enough money for a plane ticket to anywhere in the world and just leave. Or even just a bus ticket across the country to live somewhere else.
Or how about taking your girlfriend/boyfriend out on a date to a nice restaurant? Or rent a cabin in the woods for a weekend and just relax? Or go out to the bar for a few beers with a friend? Or volunteer to spend time with some elderly folks at a nursing home!
Being in prison sucks, no matter how much they dress it up. The vast majority of things you might do are closed off to you just because you can’t leave. Every single one of those prisoners knows they’re being punished. Every single one of them counts the days until their release.
Even with a minimum wage job you can save up enough money for a plane ticket to anywhere in the world and just leave.
If you make minimum wage in the city I live in you either live with your parents, have multiple roomates, or live on the street.
Right, but you don’t have to live in that city. You have the choice to move somewhere else! Prisoners don’t have that choice.
I don't because I make well above minimum wage but you're making uprooting your life and moving sound easier than it. It costs thousands of dollars to move to a new city, even more if you don't have friends or family to stay with until you get established. Good luck setting that much aside when you're barely surviving.
you sound like you have never lived in true poverty
If it has decent internet service, just let me know who I have to kill!
Follow Saint Luigi's guidance, my son
False ; Norwegians don't look at Americans.
The Americans are going to walk up on the street and randomly engage them in conversation
Norwegians when americans just come up and say "How are you?" and they don't really want to know in detail how we are but just want to be polite:
Not the Northern most Americans. They already understand how impactful a small hand wave is.
A hand wave? I’ve been a New Englander all my life. You get a quick glance and half grimace smile if you’re lucky. And that’s pretty much only if we accidentally make eye contact
Fair enough.
So I'm functionally invisible if I go there? Tempting
So you either successfully do crimes because you're invisible, or you successfully get put in a Norwegian prison. I'm gonna go check plane ticket prices.
I was about to make a joke about flying over to Norway and causing issues, but I don't want to be a jerk.
Could someone in Norway frame me and have me extradited, please?
Based on a quick search you could go for one of the stricter non-felony crimes and try to get a short stay. But I'm guessing you would have more sucess asking for asylum based on the border issues in the US these days.
Although there were references to a court statement from a few decades ago, about a not extraditing someone to a US prison because it might be a human rights violation. Which could potentially be brought up again these days with the current situation.
Unfortunately you're not the first person to have that thought. And from what little bit of research I did into it it seems that they would much rather just spend the money to buy you a plane ticket and send you home.
Makes sense. I wouldn't want me around either.
hmm, I wonder why that other country doesn't do that...
The shame of the Norwegian criminal justice system is not in how they treat their prisoners but in who they haven't gotten around to imprisoning. White Wing nationalism absolutely tearing that country to shreds.
…you would want to ban an opposing political opinions? Really? You know that cunts like Viktor Orban and Donald Trump only ever can get elected via the absolute and complete failure of the opposition?
I've seen tons of these comics. Can somebody asplain how "No, you can't do that" is a compromise?
When the police are chanting "Yes we can" and getting away with it.
The way an acquittal works is a judge or jury in a courtroom makes a decision. I can't answer for flawed court decisions, but when they do happen it's not "The Democrats" or "The Libs" making those rulings.
but when they do happen it’s not “The Democrats” or “The Libs” making those rulings.
No Democrats in Washington State or Aurora, Colorado?
I think you probably know I'm not saying judges aren't democrats or liberals, I'm saying the actions of individual judges aren't the actions of "The Democrats" or "The Libs" or any other group they belong to,they're individual decisions. Meme creators just like to oversimplify the world.
And when you ban that you get Trump. Enjoy!
I gotta say. I'm remembering the Columbia / UCLA protests, the BLM rallies, and the anti-War marches. And I'm remembering the police response. The police did not appear to side with the "We Want Civil Rights" folks. In fact, quite a few of the police were - themselves - waving the MAGA flags.
It wasn't the "We want to kill black people" group that cancelled. It wasn't the reactionaries that got banned.
A good example is to see what Varg Vikernes were doing while in prison:
Burzum remained as a solo project until 1994, when Vikernes was arrested for the murder of Euronymous and the burnings of several churches in Norway. [...] While imprisoned, Vikernes managed to record two other albums in a dark ambient style. They were released as Dauði Baldrs (1997) and Hliðskjálf (1999). Both of these albums were created with a synthesizer, as Vikernes was prohibited from using any other instruments in prison.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burzum#Imprisonment_(1993%E2%80%932009)
The mass murdering child killer Breivik sued the government because he was only offered a Playstation 2, not the Playstation 3. And did not enjoy the pets he was allowed. 🤷
That's the guy who shot up the teen summer camp island? They let him have a PS2?
I mean, I doubt all prisoners are locked in these prisons. I think these prisons like Halden are rewards to which the best behaving prispners get transported to. Still, the criminal justice system in these countries is awesome.
No, Bastøy is is considered the prison reward for the best behaving prisoners.
During their free time, inmates have access to horseback riding, fishing, tennis, and cross-country skiing.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bast%C3%B8y_Prison
WTF?
Time to go commit a crime in Norway
It's not so much a reward. It's just the natural outcome when your intent is to stop crime, and not to be cruel with punishments. In most countries it is still culturally taboo, but treating people well is the first step to stopping them from committing crimes. Mental health attention is only possible when you work with person who is being treated with basic human dignity. Antisocial personalities of course are an exception who commit crimes and trespass social norms out of different reasons than common criminal but they aren't actually that frequent or common. Crime is a complex multifactor issue. More often than not it is a mix of unmet needs, opportunity and the belief that they can get away with it. If you fulfill the needs of the person in a socially acceptable and healthy way then reduce the open opportunities for crime, you can stop crime before it happens. Punishment and its harshness, on the other hand, have absolutely no impact on crime rates.