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[–] AeonFelis@lemmy.world 24 points 6 hours ago

I got an AI PR in one of my projects once. It re-implemented a feature that already existed. It had a bug that did not exist in the already-existing feature. It placed the setting for activating that new feature right after the setting for activating the already-existing feature.

[–] LucidLyes@lemmy.world 11 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

The only people impressed by AI code are people who have the level to be impressed by AI code. Same for AI playing chess.

[–] kerrigan778@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 4 hours ago

I'm very confused by this comparison, AI is much, much better at chess than people.

[–] gerikson@awful.systems 13 points 7 hours ago (3 children)

This broke containment at the Red Site: https://lobste.rs/s/gkpmli/if_ai_is_so_good_at_coding_where_are_open

Reader discretion is advised, lobste.rs is home to its fair share of promptfondlers.

[–] dgerard@awful.systems 1 points 1 hour ago

This discussion has made it clear to me that LLM enthusiasts do not value the time or preferences of open-source maintainers, willfully do not understand affirmative consent, and that I should take steps to explicitly ban the use of such tools in the open source projects I maintain.

[–] Irelephant@lemm.ee 7 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

promptfondlers

We finally have a slur for ai bros 🥹

[–] swlabr@awful.systems 5 points 6 hours ago

Additional warning: their indentation style is not (as) mobile friendly (as it is here)

[–] Crumbgrabber@lemm.ee 11 points 7 hours ago (4 children)

Coding is hard, and its also intimidating for non-coders. I always used to look at coders as kind of a different kind of human, a special breed. Just like some people just glaze over when you bring up math concepts but are otherwise very intelligent and artistic, but they can't bridge that gap when you bring up even algebra. Well, if you are one of those people that want to learn coding its a huge gap, and the LLMs can literally explain everything to you step by step like you are 5. Learning to code is so much easier now, talking to an always helpful LLM is so much better than forums or stack overflow. Maybe it will create millions of crappy coders, but some of them will get better, some will get great. But the LLM's will make it possible for more people to learn, which means that my crypto scam now has the chance to flourish.

[–] scruiser@awful.systems 9 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

You had me going until the very last sentence. (To be fair to me, the OP broke containment and has attracted a lot of unironically delivered opinions almost as bad as your satirical spiel.)

[–] Irelephant@lemm.ee 4 points 4 hours ago

tbh learning to code isn't that hard, its like learning to do a craft.

Wait, just finished reading your comment, disregard this.

[–] swlabr@awful.systems 8 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Just gonna warn you that if you’re joking, you should add an /s or jk or something. And, if you’re joking, but you don’t add that /s or jk, don’t be hostile if someone calls you out.

[–] AeonFelis@lemmy.world 3 points 4 hours ago

No. Never mark your satire. If some doesn't get it, make your reply one SSU[^1] higher. Repeat until they are forced to get it.

[^1]: Standard Sarcasm Unit

[–] Jankatarch@lemmy.world 7 points 7 hours ago

Idk I am in a CS degree and I seen it destroy some great futures

[–] VagueAnodyneComments@lemmy.blahaj.zone 44 points 10 hours ago (4 children)

Where is the good AI written code? Where is the good AI written writing? Where is the good AI art?

None of it exists because Generative Transformers are not AI, and they are not suited to these tasks. It has been almost a fucking decade of this wave of nonsense. The credulity people have for this garbage makes my eyes bleed.

[–] Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 6 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Where is the good AI art?

Right here:

That’s about all the good AI art I know.

There are plenty of uses for AI, they are just all evil

[–] scruiser@awful.systems 6 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

It can make funny pictures, sure. But it fails at art as an endeavor to communicate an idea, feeling, or intent of the artist, the promptfondler artists are providing a few sentences instruction and the GenAI following them without any deeper feelings or understanding of context or meaning or intent.

[–] Irelephant@lemm.ee 5 points 4 hours ago

I think ai images are neat, and ethically questionable.

When people use the images and act like they're really deep, or pretend they prove something (like how it made a picture with the prompt "Democrat Protesters" cry). its annoying.

[–] corbin@awful.systems 11 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

It's been almost six decades of this, actually; we all know what this link will be. Longer if you're like me and don't draw a distinction between AI, cybernetics, and robotics.

Wow. Where was this Wikipedia page when I was writing my MSc thesis?

Alternatively, how did I manage to graduate with research skills so bad that I missed it?

[–] kadup@lemmy.world 20 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

If the people addicted to AI could read and interpret a simple sentence, they'd be very angry with your comment

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[–] frezik@midwest.social 39 points 12 hours ago (24 children)

The general comments that Ben received were that experienced developers can use AI for coding with positive results because they know what they’re doing. But AI coding gives awful results when it’s used by an inexperienced developer. Which is what we knew already.

That should be a big warning sign that the next generation of developers are not going to be very good. If they're waist deep in AI slop, they're only going to learn how to deal with AI slop.

As a non-programmer, I have zero understanding of the code and the analysis and fully rely on AI and even reviewed that AI analysis with a different AI to get the best possible solution (which was not good enough in this case).

What I'm feeling after reading that must be what artists feel like when AI slop proponents tell them "we're making art accessible".

[–] Irelephant@lemm.ee 8 points 7 hours ago

I can make slop code without ai.

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