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[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 92 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] Genius@lemmy.zip 21 points 4 days ago (4 children)
[–] conditional_soup@lemm.ee 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

IIRC, white Jesus is specifically made to look like members of the Medici family, who were major sponsors of the same Renaissance artists who painted most of our iconic religious art.

[–] Genius@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 days ago

Thanks I'm gonna call him Medici Jesus now and accuse anyone who uses that portrayal of Medici propaganda

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 19 points 4 days ago

Because he's the son of God

And according to Europeans or those of European descent, the son of God has got to be white like them and not some dirty brown curly haired middle eastern Arab.

[–] gwilikers@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 days ago

He looks more gold than white to me.

[–] Realitaetsverlust@lemmy.zip 9 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Probably because 95% oft all people in the medieval age and prior (where this specific depiction of portrait-jesus emerged) have never seen a black person all their life - including artists. Can't blame people for drawing people as they know them.

[–] Genius@lemmy.zip 15 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Nah, Europe had black people.

[–] Realitaetsverlust@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I mean, yes, black people were present but in very small numbers, and their presence was rare enough that they often stood out significantly in the historical record. The most were probably around the southern borders of todays europe, like spain, italy and greece, but black people in todays germany, poland or even further up north were an absolute rarity. Even in southern europe, black people were rare enough that many people only saw a handful of them in their lifetime.

[–] Shezzagrad@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Germany nor Poland made the white jesus, your bringing up an entirely moot point

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[–] Genius@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Many people only saw a hundred people in their lifetime. Most people were farmers. There were no trains or TV then.

[–] Nalivai@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Those people weren't the ones painting paintings and writing stories

[–] Genius@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 days ago

Yeah, those people saw plenty of black people

[–] Jiggle_Physics@sh.itjust.works 7 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Yeah the Moors controlled the Iberian peninsula for nearly 800 years from 711-1492.

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[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 1 points 2 days ago

Yeah, but these were painted in Italy.

They've barely got any black people even now.

[–] Shezzagrad@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

They've seen Arabs and Semites haven't they... The land where jesus is from. Why you talking like jesus is from the heart of Africa

[–] Realitaetsverlust@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Because many haven't? It's not like people in medieval europe could take a quick trip with ryanair from tel aviv to berlin lmao. Black people in central europe were rare enough that many people have never seen one in their life. Most of them were around the borders of todays southern europe.

[–] Shezzagrad@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 days ago (4 children)

I can already tell you're not at all well versed in this topic. Have you heard of a concept called trade mate? Did you know that before the Roman empire even existed a network of trade and safe passage was made that could traverse from China to the furthest western point of Europe including India, the steppes and African trade (east coast). Also you keep going back to 'black people" like wtf is this discount American eugenics take. Bro the religion is middle eastern, people knew what they looked like, there's thing thing called art and sculptures which help those who never seem one understand what they look like. But none of this even matters you turned into a race thing, it was a cultural shift, the 14th century did a white jesus start coming up in some obscure art and didn't really take off till the 20th century (white jesus) Just another fat L, Tel Aviv wasn't a thing back then, tf you choose that awful fucking city full of earth's worst people. call it by it's real name. Jaffa

[–] Jax@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 days ago

it was a cultural shift, the 14th century did a white jesus start coming up in some obscure art and didn't really take off till the 20th century (white jesus)

This is fundamentally incorrect, and I can prove it - better yet, someone else already has in these comments.

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[–] davidagain@lemmy.world 48 points 4 days ago (3 children)

This sentence could land you in prison for life if they go ahead with "suspending" habeas corpus. Remember folks, if your detention cannot be challenged legally, it doesn't matter AT ALL whether your detention was legal. If you think they'll never come for you, you're forgetting that they'll rely on the volunteer army of MAGA "informers" who will turn you in for treason because you annoyed them by being kind to someone they were bullying or something completely trivial. Without habeas corpus, suspicion is sentencing.

[–] name_NULL111653@pawb.social 2 points 1 day ago

I know first hand of an anti- DEI-ban protest that occurred on a college campus in a red state. I also know first hand that the Turning Point USA group chat had at least one individual, a student of that same university, threaten to call ICE on this university-approved peaceful protest, as they were upset at the noise.

[–] walktheplank@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (2 children)

But the courts will save me...right?

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[–] CitizenKong@lemmy.world 11 points 3 days ago

Also exactly what Hitler did with the Reichtag Fire Decree: https://alphahistory.com/nazigermany/the-reichstag-fire/

[–] VirgilMastercard@reddthat.com 69 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Gays, immigrants, and marginalised people together strong 💪

[–] Aufschieber@lemmy.world 49 points 4 days ago (1 children)

And please acknowledge the fact they called it Gulf of Mexico instead of Gulf of "America"!

[–] Eldritch@lemmy.world 16 points 4 days ago

Twas the cherry on top.

[–] daepicgamerbro69@lemmy.world 14 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

or some uptight twitter green smartass (cia bot) about the fact that they were on diesel guzzling cruiser.

[–] Lyra_Lycan@lemmy.blahaj.zone 20 points 4 days ago (4 children)

Are you saying that only the Central Intelligence Agency wants the USA to stop using destructive and limited fuel sources?

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 16 points 4 days ago (1 children)

No, but the CIA wants to discredit critics by making progressives look extreme with ridiculous psyop campaigns.

[–] VirgilMastercard@reddthat.com 15 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I remember the one where the so-called feminist pours bleach on men on the train who are "manspreading". Although that one turned out to be Russian in origin. Same sort of thing however.

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The homosexual underground in action

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