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[–] midori_matcha@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Why throw the kids in the slammer? So they can eventually come back out as hardened criminals and contribute to the recidivism statistics, further circling society down the drain because they were betrayed by the corporations that injected their explosive products into our tax-funded school systems? They should give the TikTok kids full STEM scholarships for exposing these dangerous design flaws!

Hold the Chromebook manufacturer liable for the unsafe hardware design flaw with no overcurrent protection, hold the school liable for recklessly issuing these dangerous laptops that cheaped out on safety features, and hold Google liable for neglecting power handling in their Chromebook software! Get the CPSC on the phone and get every single Flamebook recalled across the nation!

It's outrageous, egregious, preposterous!

[–] Jankatarch@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

But how else will google sell overpriced computers to schools despite lack of funding and force children to growing up with google products?

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[–] frostysauce@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Parents and psychiatrists have been trying to wrap their heads around how some of the more dangerous Internet trends take off, especially among kids.

Kids are dumb and they do dumb things. There's not really that much to wrap one's head around.

[–] RedAggroBest@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago (2 children)

And it's not even like Internet trends are a new thing. TikTok has simply offered a platform that's extra predatory about it.

I can imagine that TikTok has been for Internet trends, to what slot machines did for gambling.

[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Yeah, like, first time?

The presentation has changed slightly but the content is much the same. Back in the good old days I was a moderator on Totse forums (the original, but its web bulletin board incarnation and not when it was a BBS) and we literally had an entire subforum just titled "Bad Ideas." This was where things got launched, torched, smoked, blown up, stolen, scammed, or otherwise mutilated. Or at the very least all of the above talked about, at length. All of this with an strong implicit suggestion to try it yourself. Most of the kiddos did not actually have the means to pull of what they claimed they did but the ones who could and more importantly had the means to prove it were celebrities. Usually only for a short time, for various reasons.

The early Internet was basically just a repository for bickering about Star Trek, low grade porn, plans for how to build potato cannons, or schemes involving smoking dried banana peels. An immense amount of stupidity has always been there to be found, because the place was and is full of teenagers and teenagers are stupid.

I sure was, when I was one.

[–] Initiateofthevoid@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Anyone else remember kids watching videos of other kids nearly choking to death on cinnamon, and thinking "hey this looks like fun"?

Or the "chug a gallon of milk" thing? Those "trends" were just weirdly masochistic and sadistic. It wasn't even misinformation or anything. Kids watched other kids suffer, and then chose to suffer too.

I can imagine that TikTok has been for Internet trends, to what slot machines did for gambling.

It's closer to what mobile apps did for gambling. Crazy how quickly that was normalized in the US, and it's tragic how easily people can just delete thousands of dollars from their bank account on a whim from the comfort of their couch.

I guess what I'm saying is, maybe sometimes children and adults really do need some protection from their stupid impulses.

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[–] ulterno@programming.dev 16 points 2 days ago

So you mean there are laptop USB ports out there without current limiters?
I would want to check my PC's ports, but I am not filthy rich, so I'll just assume stuff is not current limited.

[–] hal_5700X@sh.itjust.works 99 points 2 days ago (1 children)

TikTok is poison for the mind.

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[–] ExtantHuman@lemm.ee 140 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (35 children)

I don't get it. I was never this stupid as a kid.

Edit: thank you for explaining to me that many of you were that stupid. I guess I never hung around any of you.

[–] WhiteRice@lemmy.ml 72 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Are you sure? Kids are pretty stupid.

[–] ExtantHuman@lemm.ee 54 points 2 days ago (5 children)

I never intentionally destroyed expensive electronics to "try to impress" anyone in real life, let alone online (although that didn't quite exist yet).

So, yeah, I'm sure.

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[–] FireWire400@lemmy.world 24 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Google didn’t respond to Ars Technica’s request for comment.

To be fair, I don't really see why they should. Chances are they didn't factor in that level of stupidity when designing those things.

[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

It makes sense that they wouldn't have anything to comment anyway. Google themselves don't actually manufacture most Chromebooks, they only provide the OS. I imagine the majority of the mass of Chromebooks in the world by weight are actually designed and made by Lenovo, Asus, Dell, HP, etc. Even the Google branded ones are manufactured by someone else under contract.

It'd be like demanding Microsoft explain to the news why your Dell caught fire simply because it had Windows installed on it.

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[–] user224@lemmy.sdf.org 58 points 2 days ago (3 children)

the so-called Chromebook Challenge includes students sticking things into Chromebook ports to short-circuit the system.

I am rather surprised that works. I thought any modern device would have overload protection in place. I think I even remember accidentally tripping it on some device, but it would just reset after reboot.
I also tried to see the max output current of my previous phone this way. Load it up till the protection trips. Result: Stable up to 2.1A, tripped at 2.5A.

Oh, yeah. A Xiaomi phone charger I have also shuts down if I either overload it or immediately load it near max rating rather than gradually increase the load.

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[–] veeesix@lemmy.ca 40 points 2 days ago (2 children)

It’d be a crying shame if the students were required to complete the school year with physical books and a notebook.

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[–] aTun@lemm.ee 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I thought system will turn off USB port if notice current over draw. Look like I am wrong.

[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (2 children)

What i saw they were shorting the charging ports, not the USB slots.

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[–] Fleur_@aussie.zone 12 points 2 days ago

Man I'm so sorry to my highschool Chromebook. They gave me that shit in yr seven and I was incapable of keeping things in one piece at that age. I think every key had been taken off by the end of the year and there were several holes in the outer casing.

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago (6 children)

Well, maybe a school-issued computer should be designed differently than a consumer device.

Maybe such things should be considered beforehand.

In industrial ergonomics you are supposed to, ideally, present a worker with a few buttons with abundantly clear results of pressing them and no forbidden combinations leading to unexpected\undefined\dangerous results.

Kids sticking things into what's given to them are not an unexpected event. I'd say kids doing that are better than kids not doing that. And if it's expected, then this is almost entrapment.

Oh, oh, OH, you can't just put a consumer device with a web browser with Google and MS and Apple shit into schools then? No kickbacks from those companies? So fucking sad.

Forcing a kid to wear around a centrally managed device with a microphone and a camera makes me want to vomit. That should be illegal as many other things. It's a disgusting world.

These should be military-level (by resilience to attempts to throw them out of the window, sink them in the water, overheat them and so on) devices with something like FreeDOS+OpenGEM. That's by far enough to run school programs. If you think it's not, then you are possessed by collective delusions, that's a thing in crowd psychology, so drink a glass of water, listen to cars\birds, look at the sky and answer which fundamentally new tasks you need to solve as compared to having year 1999 Internet (as in open a static webpage, follow links, send forms), WordPerfect and Basic. Especially at school.

We use axes, knives, hammers and screwdrivers and other stuff to do things, more or less as they existed 300 years ago, when we are not professionals, who of course use power tools.

[–] ILoveUnions@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago (8 children)

That's not cheap. Schools can't afford that. The kids know better.

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[–] Norin@lemmy.world 67 points 2 days ago (8 children)

Youthful rebellion transcends technology.

Is there much difference between this and, say, using a pen to drill a hole in your desk?

[–] SaltSong@startrek.website 60 points 2 days ago (19 children)

Desks are cheaper, and the hole only slightly impairs functionality.

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