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[–] Ironfist79@lemmy.world 32 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Maybe we've just embraced being fat.

[–] slappypantsgo@lemm.ee 2 points 1 hour ago

I only wish.

[–] letsgo2themall@lemmy.world 36 points 14 hours ago (6 children)

people will do anything to avoid eating a healthy diet and exercising. I lost 120lbs in just over 2 years from walking and eating low carb real food.

[–] FuckFascism@lemmy.world 1 points 44 minutes ago

I lost 0lbs from not being fat. (I'm sorry I don't think you're fat but I had to write this all out, it's a disease of the mind)

[–] markovs_gun@lemmy.world 2 points 56 minutes ago

That's sort of what Ozempic does though. It reduces the desire to eat large amounts of unhealthy food.

[–] lagoon8622@sh.itjust.works 32 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

Once again, carbs are not the problem. Italian and French people eat tons of carbs and are way healthier than Americans

[–] Baguette@lemm.ee 19 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

The easiest way to boil down weight loss is calories in calories out. If you are in a surplus, you will in most cases gain weight (with some deviance based on genetics and other bodily factors). Lots of carbs is fine if you have a lot of calories out. European people usually have walkable cities, and the infrastructure there promotes lots of calories out on a day to day basis. America is a lot more car centric. The average american has less calories out because walking/cycling is uncommon in most of the US. Coupled with the standard caloric dense american food, it's easy to see how we are struggling with an obesity problem.

Low carb is just one way to cut down on how many calories you intake. Nothing wrong with it, and there are obviously many other ways to go about it.

[–] lagoon8622@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 hour ago

Your entire comment, which is correct btw, is agreeing with my point that carbs are not the problem

[–] BlindFrog@lemmy.world 4 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Plus, personal anecdote -- carbs don't curb my hunger as quickly as protein and fat do. On a heavy protein day, I snack little to nil.

[–] Baguette@lemm.ee 1 points 3 hours ago

Thats accurate. Carbohydrates are much more easily broken down to its simple states, while proteins require more to be broken down to amino acids, so it makes you feel full longer. Fibers are also another way to stay feeling full. They're not digestible, so it takes up space and makes you feel full without adding calories.

[–] rwdf@lemmy.world 3 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Yes, but there is a difference between grains and refined sugar and high glucose corn syrup.

[–] lagoon8622@sh.itjust.works 3 points 6 hours ago

I agree. I don't think my homemade bread with 4 ingredients is a problem

[–] habitualcynic@lemmy.world 10 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Congrats! It’s not easy! I dropped 60 lbs the same way. It’s the only thing that works long term since you have to retrain your body and mind, learn new habits, and build interest in maintaining it.

[–] knightly@pawb.social 3 points 5 hours ago

I lost 40 without making any new habits other than weighing in daily with an app that estimates my caloric balance over the last two weeks. Turns out that I didn't need big changes to diet and exercise to get into a persistent decline, though I've lost another 15 since starting hormone therapy

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world -2 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

If those things reduced people's weight in a reasonable time frame then they would do that.

Don't expect slaves to have the time, money, and energy to spend hundreds of hours to be an attractive weight.

[–] madcaesar@lemmy.world -1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)
[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Keep ignoring the reasons people use drugs and getting mad at the drugs i guess lol

[–] madcaesar@lemmy.world -1 points 2 hours ago

I'm so mad!

😂

[–] CmdrShepard42@lemm.ee 100 points 1 day ago (18 children)

"Weight Watchers files for bankruptcy as old weight loss scams are supplanted by new weight loss scams"

Fixed the headline for them.

[–] CaptPretentious@lemmy.world 1 points 25 minutes ago

While I've not taken them, though I've thought about it, I've met people who have. It's shocking how well those drugs work. Both of them were super happy with the results and could probably be sales reps, to be honest. One was even proud to share her before photo, because she wanted to drive home just how well it worked. No one believed her until she showed the photos.

[–] Guidy@lemmy.world 50 points 15 hours ago (4 children)

Yeah fuck off.

I’ve been overweight my entire life, over five decades now, and these drugs are nothing short of a miracle.

In addition to changing how my body processes sugar, it kills any desire I have for any particular food as well as hunger.

They like to say that it “silences food noise in your brain” and that works as a description but it doesn’t convey just how truly profound that is.

You can tell that it works, BTW, by how much they charge for it.

I’m down a little more than 30 pounds in 90 days. Given enough time I will be slim/normal for the first time since the 1970s, and I don’t appreciate chucklefucks calling them a scam.

You know what’s a scam? HFCS. Sugar in everything.

These new drugs though - not a scam. At all.

[–] ThraawnSolo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 5 hours ago

Hey good for you! Keep it up dude.

[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 17 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

I used to work in public health, and even among educated people there was a lot of prejudice against the idea that addiction was beyond the individuals control.

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[–] bitchkat@lemmy.world 7 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Weight Watchers is basically eating in moderation, its most definitely not a scam.

[–] CmdrShepard42@lemm.ee 3 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

One could argue that paying a subscription to not over-eat is a scam similar to the way gyms prey on people and get them to sign up while expecting that they'll only come once or twice.

[–] ifItWasUpToMe@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 hours ago

One could say that, but they would be wrong lol

[–] peoplebeproblems@midwest.social 70 points 1 day ago (24 children)

Wegovy/Saxenda whatever others are (GLP-1) inhibitors aren't a scam, they work.

They are absurdly expensive for the benefit they bring. Of course, fat lot of good it does if you don't use it to the full extent so you can actually get off of it.

[–] nibbler@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 15 hours ago

The pricing is absurd. In Denmark it's like $80 for four weeks. in USA it starts at $1000. But medicine in USA is a whole other can of worms.

In Germany it starts at $300 (2.5mg/week) and goes up to $540 (15mg/week). But then if you get a 15mg/week prescription and happen to only need 5mg/week (possibly supported by taking it more often than once a week), and also make use of the 1.3 (my guesstimate) extra doses that are in the syringe (but a bit difficult to extract) you pay like $120/month. This is what a proper gym costs in my area. And honestly, you safe on food, too. And on your weight watchers subscription!

[–] futatorius@lemm.ee 4 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

The work in the sense that they cause weight loss. They do nothing to keep the weight off once it's lost. And they have side-effects, some quite nasty.

[–] Trainguyrom@reddthat.com 2 points 5 hours ago

These new Semaglutide medications work by mucking with one's appetite and slowing digestion. It's actually mimicking a natural process that occurs in a species of desert lizard if I remember correctly.

So they work, and in trials they found people. lost at most about 30% of body fat, which is significantly more than any previous weight loss drug, but for folks who need to lose more than 30% they won't reach their goal body weight. (But it does certainly make the Hollywood approach of taking semiglutides to rapidly lose a fairly small amount of weight make more sense)

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