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White House proposes giving out $5,000 checks to address falling birthrates amid growing ‘pronatalist’ movement

One of Donald Trump’s priorities for his second term is getting Americans to have more babies – and the White House has a new proposal to encourage them to do so: a $5,000 “baby bonus”.

The plan to give cash payments to mothers after delivery shows the growing influence of the “pronatalist” movement in the US, which, citing falling US birthrates, calls for “traditional” family values and for women – particularly white women – to have more children.

But experts say $5,000 checks won’t lead to a baby boom. Between unaffordable health care, soaring housing costs, inaccessible childcare and a lack of federal parental leave mandates, Americans face a swath of expensive hurdles that disincentivize them from having large families – or families at all – and that will require a much larger government investment to overcome.

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[–] Mallspice@lemm.ee 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Yeah girls don’t really wanna fuck like they do where/when abortions are an option and there’s no chance of legally being sentenced to death because of a still birth I’m shocked conservatives are too stupid to get this.

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[–] Stovetop@lemmy.world 26 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Why do I have a feeling the administration would still try to find ways to not pay nonwhite families having kids?

Trump was propped up by people who believe this bogus "Great Replacement" theory and I don't think they would be willing to back down from that stance on account of a generally declining population.

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[–] Sgt_choke_n_stroke@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Throwing money at people won't cause a baby boom. YOU NEED TO MAKE CHILD CARE AND HOUSING CHEAPER!! GIVE PEOPLE HOPE AND CHILDREN WILL FOLLOW!

I know I'm screaming into a void but I feel like it needs to be said.

And it's a start. Make public transportation easier to access. Find public education better. Don't sic CPS on parents that let their children play outside.

[–] BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world 18 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Is $5000 gonna resurrect my wife if my shit ass state policies force her to continue a dangerous pregnancy and she dies prior to giving birth? Also, fuck you.

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[–] orcrist@lemm.ee 4 points 1 day ago

We don't even have to ask the experts. Just look at Japan that tried something similar in the past. Of course it was a complete failure... This is basic reality, right? Families that don't have money simply can't afford to raise a child even if they get a bit of cash at the start. Pay them more than a living wage if you want them to have kids.

[–] Nojustice@lemmy.ml 14 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Hilarious that the only concept he can come up with is UNDER paying for things he wants hahahahaha

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[–] ThePantser@sh.itjust.works 17 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Trump: "Gotta save the government money"

Also Trump: "Just throw money at it, maybe it will fix itself"

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[–] Toneswirly@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Youre not gonna get the eugenics you want with this. The most likely audience is people with short-sighted need for cash, aka the working poor.

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[–] misteloct@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

It should be 1 penny. It has the same exact effect on childbirth rates, has a greater demoralizing effect on Democrats who understand policy, and allows more money to be siphoned to billionaires in tax cuts, all of which are the real goals here.

When you want to piss off a waiter on Sunday morning after church, you don't leave a 5% tip. You leave a penny.

It's not a baby boom they are after. I used to think it was all about cheaper labor.

Nope. It's to tie up fathers and mothers so they are too busy to pay attention that people start starving, dying of disease, and disappearing.

The added benefit, if they can do it "their way" they kill multiple birds with one stone - A. Prevent the "white replacement theory" (wtf) B. Lower the number of people willing to fight against the Regime, C. Cheaper, younger labor pool hopefully educated enough to go into the military And that's about it.

Soft Eugenics. Genocide through "nature".

Won't work, but they're not the brightest people.

[–] synapse1278@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago

No amount of money will convince a meaningful amount of people to have kids if they can't reasonably believe their children will have a good life. Climate disasters, pollution, financial struggle, no access to property, crushing work life, unemployment, racism, unfair public policies, regressing social rights. All of these have to be addressed seriously before you can even start dreaming about reaching replacement birth rate. Fascist governments will go for an easier solution: enslave women.

[–] drcabbage@lemmy.ml 11 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Kind of hard to promote getting pregnant when they are actively trying to take away abortion rights! That's like asking someone to walk a tight rope, but then take away the safety net.

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[–] Flamekebab@piefed.social 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Add at least one zero to that, ideally two.

[–] BlackSheep@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Would that even cover the hospital delivery bill?

[–] DancingBear@midwest.social 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Not in the USA

That wouldn’t even cover an ambulance ride to the hospital

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

not in the slightest. births can be up to 20k, plus if you want to have a healthy birth and healthy mom, all the prenatal stuff too. woman are also likely to have morbidities while pregnant, and can die. i the us has a high maternity mortality than other western countries.

when your pregnants, your body goes out whack, gestational diabetes, hbp, autoimmune diseases.

[–] BlackSheep@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I hear you. I’m in Canada, and my daughter-in-law’s first pregnancy was challenging. Marginal umbilical cord insertion. Thankfully, we have universal health care. She had constant observation, and baby was induced a bit early due to the condition. Beautiful, healthy little girl. Thank you, Canadian health care! Bill: $0.00. So, for you traitorous bastards in Alberta, good luck with your health care bills in the US

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[–] crusa187@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 days ago

That’s not even diaper money for their first year. Donald, you should know this, ya shit stain wearin’ convict.

[–] RedditIsDeddit@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

Trump has no respect for anything

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