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NOTE: This thread concerns the U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement; not internal combustion engines.

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[–] entwine413@lemm.ee 21 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Put a BB in the valve stem cap. It's non-destructive, but will still result in a flat tire. If you super glue the BB, they might end up with several flats before they realize.

[–] badbrainstorm@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I had a tool in highschool that took the valve out of the stem I borrowed from my dads mechanic shop that I put to good use. If there's a hell I'm probably headed there

[–] The_Caretaker@lemm.ee 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Valve stem remover. They are available form auto parts stores and the evil online store for about $6

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[–] entwine413@lemm.ee 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The great thing about the BB is that it just lets the air out. All of the other methods are straight up destruction of property, and that's not a fun charge to catch when that property belongs to law enforcement.

[–] fyzzlefry@retrolemmy.com 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You think they care if there's a proper charge?

[–] entwine413@lemm.ee 1 points 1 day ago

A jury would.

[–] SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 1 day ago

In the CAP, you say?

A small stone will also work.

[–] Omega_Man@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I find it interesting that these posts are dated 2019. I don't remember this being an issue pre-covid.

[–] burgerpocalyse@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

Well I mean the department of homeland security was established like one minute after 9/11 happened and thats who is in charge of Immigration and Customs Enforcement, so they've been fucking around in the rights of US citizens and noncitizens since then

[–] zbyte64@awful.systems 8 points 1 day ago

I remember family separations was a big deal during his first term. And then there was that US citizen teen who was imprisoned by ICE in Texas....

[–] Ekybio@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago (21 children)

What would exactly happen if one woule pour sugar in the gas tank? Like on a chemical and mechanical level?

First time hearing about this

[–] rtxn@lemmy.world 22 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Nothing. Sugar is not soluble in hydrocarbons and the particles would be caught by the fuel filter. You'd have to replace the filter and clean the fuel tank, but the engine would be fine. Might as well use dirt instead of sugar to achieve the same effect.

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (5 children)

Well then you would uh... ice ICE's ICE.

bad dum tish!

Not really though, basically, it clogs up the fuel pump/filter.

Not likely to... immediately or quickly immobilize the vehicle... but it would increase maintenance costs, and decrease fuel efficiency and reliability.

...

If you wanna go for something uh... faster acting, more immediate and more serious:

A whole lot of water.

That'll make the engine choke and sputter and stall if you use enough.

So... use ice to ice ICE's ICE?

Uh... in minecraft?

...

Sand will also clog up the filter, and cause more damage inside the actual engine if any gets through the filter.

... A whole bunch of polystyrene packing peanuts would ... also be 'fun', rofl.

The way they chemically interact with gasoline... basically gellifies the gasonline, turning it into shitty, syrupy napalm.

I am guessing a very gooopy gasoline is... not going to help a car run well, please actually do not test this rofl.

I am not a chemist, but uh chat gpt says polystyrene + gasoline is an exothermic reaction... so that... generates heat... and gasses... and that could be bad... in a tightly sealed container...

😅

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[–] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

We call table salt “salt” even though that’s a generic name for any metal bonded with a non metallic mineral (for instance potassium chloride). Sugar is the same, table sugar is just one kind of sugar. “Sugar” is the generic name for a type of carbohydrate. Ethanols found in gasoline can degrade into a sugar over time (like in a mower left out over the winter) and this will leave a fine white powder in the engine that will cause scaring when the engine is started. Thus sugar can ruin your engine, but is more likely to increase wear. This has perpetuated an urban legend that you can force this by putting table sugar in a gas tank.

[–] ornery_chemist@mander.xyz 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I realize (and you mentioned) that sugar is not a well defined term, but calling degradation products of ethanol in gas "sugars" is still a bit of a stretch. Ethanol by itself usually forms some combination of acetaldehyde, acetic acid, 2-carbon peroxides, and CO2 (i.e. not sugars) upon autoxidation, though those species can react with other components of gasoline to form the precipitated "gum". The structure of gum in the literature is pretty hand-wavy (high MW materials kinda just be like that sometimes) but tends to be much more more oxygen-deficient than conventional "sugars" (polysaccharides) even for ethanol blends and contains a wider variety of substructures. Though, I have seen some papers talking about certain microbes that can ferment the ethanol in gasoline, possibly via sugars, but I don't think that's the common degradarion pathway for a mower.

[–] BreadOven@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

See the longer response from another user, they're correct. Just wanted to say table sugar is sucrose (a combination of fructose and glucose if I remember correctly). But you will not create sugars in the process you're talking about.

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[–] zbyte64@awful.systems 6 points 1 day ago

Is this why modern caltrops ended up on my YouTube FYP?

[–] FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

Doesn’t have to be a big hole in the sidewall, you can’t put a plug in it no matter the size so a needle can render a tire FUBAR

[–] Korne127@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago

Okay, won't do that 🫡

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