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NOTE: This thread concerns the U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement; not internal combustion engines.

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[–] Nomad@infosec.pub 20 points 19 hours ago

You realize that's why they use mostly unmarked vehicles?

[–] 33550336@lemmy.world 13 points 18 hours ago

Putting sugar in the gas tank does not work (unless in a movie). You can clog exhaust pipe or penetrate tire.

[–] wetbeardhairs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

I'm surprised I haven't seen more calls to puncture the radiator. That would lead to the engine shutting off and being immobilized pretty quickly.

[–] baldingpudenda@lemmy.world 5 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

Would puncturing the bottom radiator hose not really leak until the pump starts up? Like it would be a slight drip that could be overlooked/unnoticed and a full stream once on and running. Hopefully after driving away a few miles.

[–] 33550336@lemmy.world 6 points 18 hours ago

It's easier to damage radiator (which is preety soft) with a screwdriver.

[–] wetbeardhairs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah that's why I think radiator damage is the way to go. They will most likely get stuck on the freeway which is a royal fucking pain.

[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 7 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Why do all that? I'd just wedge some oil or gas soaked rags on top of the catalytic converter. Once the car warms up, the vehicle burns down.

[–] wetbeardhairs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

I dont want to crawl under a car. Puncturing the radiator is a way to quickly immobilize a vehicle in a way that requires substantial repair. All of these "sugar in th gas tank!" "unscrew their tire stems!" ideas sound fun but they take time and thus make them fantasies. I want something quick and obvious that succeeds.

So break their fucking radiators.

[–] DicJacobus@lemmy.world 44 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Sugar in a gas tank is not nearly as damaging as just pouring water in it.

[–] NOPper@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Doesn't it just clog up the fuel filter because it won't dissolve in gasoline?

[–] SoleInvictus@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Bingo, and it takes a lot to clog the filter. Plain water is more of a nuisance.

[–] SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

would sugar water do more damage? dissolve and burn with residue in the motor

[–] SoleInvictus@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

I'm only an amateur mechanic and a middling chemist, but I'd estimate the amount of sugar water required for the sugar component to have any significant effect on an engine would just keep it from running. Gasoline won't dissolve water and water is denser, so it'll settle on the bottom of the tank. A fuel line full of water will kill combustion pretty quick.

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[–] the_riviera_kid@lemmy.world 72 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Sugar in the gas tank will not ruin the engine, the most it will do is maybe clog the fuel filter.

Bleach on the other hand is an Oxidizer, it will cause certain metals to rust extremely fast....

[–] tourist@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago (4 children)

This still assumes access to the fuel tank

We can work backwards and double down on this problem by making sure it remains inaccessible for as long as possible.

Ideally, you would want to weld the fuel hole shut, but that may be impractical. Depositing a cartoonish amount of very strong glue into the fuel cap cover can be a more realistic compromise.

Attempts to regain access may leave the fuel tank vulnerable where it can then be double tapped with bleach.

or just use a flathead screwdriver idk im high

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[–] The_Caretaker@lemm.ee 15 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

A Schrader valve has a lot of metal in it. Cutting them isn't easy. A valve stem remover is cheap, about $6. Unscrew the valve stems and the tire's air pressure will push them out. Throw the valve stems far from the car. Alternatively you could use a bodkin to puncture the sidewalls of the tire. A bodkin is a little tool used to make fishing flies. Think of a tiny ice-pick. A very small hole leaks slowly and doesn't make much noise, making it easy to get away unnoticed. If you slash a tire with a big knife, the air comes out fast and makes a loud pop. If you don't want to be noticed, don't slash the tires with a knife unless the air is already gone.

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[–] LordGimp@lemm.ee 15 points 1 day ago

Water balloons + black oil paint + used motor oil + a handful of course sand = absolute hell on car paint, polycarbonate panes (think security helmet visors or those see through riot shields), and anything with feet that likes to walk around.

[–] magic_smoke@lemmy.blahaj.zone 71 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Am I crazy or does everyone in the comments not realize they're talking about ICE the federal agency?

[–] hellfire103@lemmy.ca 33 points 1 day ago* (last edited 42 minutes ago)

You're as sane as I was in 2019. Looks like 196 has more gearheads than Americans.

[–] verdare@beehaw.org 1 points 18 hours ago

I just saw this on Tumblr before seeing it here and I was also really confused for a moment.

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[–] SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml 32 points 1 day ago (6 children)

Law nerds: can ironical intent be proven in court?

[–] Zwiebel@feddit.org 47 points 1 day ago

Serious answer: The US gov is past using courts or caring what the laws says

[–] Kowowow@lemmy.ca 30 points 1 day ago

Think the fbi has officially recognized the term "in minecraft" as possible real intent

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[–] Omega_Man@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I find it interesting that these posts are dated 2019. I don't remember this being an issue pre-covid.

[–] burgerpocalyse@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

Well I mean the department of homeland security was established like one minute after 9/11 happened and thats who is in charge of Immigration and Customs Enforcement, so they've been fucking around in the rights of US citizens and noncitizens since then

[–] zbyte64@awful.systems 6 points 1 day ago

I remember family separations was a big deal during his first term. And then there was that US citizen teen who was imprisoned by ICE in Texas....

[–] entwine413@lemm.ee 18 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Put a BB in the valve stem cap. It's non-destructive, but will still result in a flat tire. If you super glue the BB, they might end up with several flats before they realize.

[–] badbrainstorm@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (4 children)

I had a tool in highschool that took the valve out of the stem I borrowed from my dads mechanic shop that I put to good use. If there's a hell I'm probably headed there

[–] The_Caretaker@lemm.ee 3 points 23 hours ago

Valve stem remover. They are available form auto parts stores and the evil online store for about $6

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[–] zbyte64@awful.systems 5 points 1 day ago

Is this why modern caltrops ended up on my YouTube FYP?

[–] Ekybio@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago (13 children)

What would exactly happen if one woule pour sugar in the gas tank? Like on a chemical and mechanical level?

First time hearing about this

[–] iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works 43 points 1 day ago (8 children)

It's a myth perpetuated by people who don't know better. By all means, putting sugar in a gas tank is not advised because, well, sugar doesn't belong in there. But it will not ruin the engine. If it even reaches the engine, you have a pretty bad fuel filter.

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[–] rtxn@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Nothing. Sugar is not soluble in hydrocarbons and the particles would be caught by the fuel filter. You'd have to replace the filter and clean the fuel tank, but the engine would be fine. Might as well use dirt instead of sugar to achieve the same effect.

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

Well then you would uh... ice ICE's ICE.

bad dum tish!

Not really though, basically, it clogs up the fuel pump/filter.

Not likely to... immediately or quickly immobilize the vehicle... but it would increase maintenance costs, and decrease fuel efficiency and reliability.

...

If you wanna go for something uh... faster acting, more immediate and more serious:

A whole lot of water.

That'll make the engine choke and sputter and stall if you use enough.

So... use ice to ice ICE's ICE?

Uh... in minecraft?

...

Sand will also clog up the filter, and cause more damage inside the actual engine if any gets through the filter.

... A whole bunch of polystyrene packing peanuts would ... also be 'fun', rofl.

The way they chemically interact with gasoline... basically gellifies the gasonline, turning it into shitty, syrupy napalm.

I am guessing a very gooopy gasoline is... not going to help a car run well, please actually do not test this rofl.

I am not a chemist, but uh chat gpt says polystyrene + gasoline is an exothermic reaction... so that... generates heat... and gasses... and that could be bad... in a tightly sealed container...

😅

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