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An open source project the size of Lemmy needs constant work to manage the project, implement new features and fix bugs. Dessalines and I work full-time on these tasks and more. As there is no advertising or tracking, all of our work is funded through donations. Unfortunately the amount of donations has decreased to only 2000€ per month. This leaves only 1000€ per developer, which is not enough to pay my bills. With the current level of donations I will be forced to find another job, and drastically reduce my contributions to Lemmy. To avoid this outcome and keep Lemmy growing, I ask you to please make a recurring donation:

Liberapay | Ko-fi | Patreon | OpenCollective | Crypto

If you want more information before donating, consider the comparison with Reddit. It began as startup funded by rich investors. The site is managed by corporate executives who over time have become more and more disconnected from normal users. Their main goal is to make investors happy and to make a profit. This leads to user-hostile decisions like firing the employee responsible for AMAs, blocking third-party apps and more. As Reddit is a single website under a single authority, it means all users need to follow the same rules, including ridiculous ones like censoring the name "Luigi".

Lemmy represents a new type of social media which is the complete opposite of Reddit. It is split across many different websites, each with its own rules, and managed by normal people who actually care about the users. There is no company and no profit motive. Much of the work is carried out by volunteer admins, mods and posters, who contribute out of enthusiasm and not for money. For users this is great as there is no advertising nor tracking, and no chance of takeover by a billionaire. Additionally there are no builtin political or ideological restrictions. You can use the software for any purpose you like, add your own restrictions or scrutinize its inner workings. Lemmy truly belongs to everyone.

Dessalines and I work fulltime on Lemmy to keep up with all the feature requests, bug reports and development work. Even so there is barely enough time in the day, and no time for a second job. Previously I sometimes had to rely on my personal savings to keep developing Lemmy for you, but that can't go on forever. We partly rely on NLnet for funding, but they only pay for development of new features, and not for mandatory maintenance work. The only available option are user donations. To keep it viable donations need to reach a minimum of 5000€ per month, resulting in a modest salary of 2500€ per developer. If that goal is reached Dessalines and I can stop worrying about money, and fully focus on improving the software for the benefit of all users and instances. Please use the link below to see current donation stats and make your contribution! We especially rely on recurring donations to secure the long-term development and make Lemmy the best it can be.

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[–] nutomic@lemmy.ml 81 points 1 day ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (8 children)

Update: For those of you who want to support Lemmy development without financing the hosting of lemmy.ml, know that the hosting is paid exclusively through OpenCollective. You can see the payment details at this link. This means donations through all other platforms (Liberapay, Ko-fi, Patreon, Crypto) are exclusively for Lemmy development, and not a single cent goes to lemmy.ml hosting.

Edit: Liberapay is the preferable donation option, as it has very low fees and is also open source.

[–] BaumGeist@lemmy.ml 11 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

What if I'm so propagandized by American technofascist social media that I am incapable of believing Marxists would be able to make and maintain a project of this size? How do I donate to the real devs? (/j)

Real question: assuming I'm basically broke, which is more helpful to y'all: a yearly dono of $100 or a weekly pledge of $2?

[–] nutomic@lemmy.ml 8 points 8 hours ago

The real devs are locked into a server room with appropriate supplies of food and caffeine. So dont worry about them.

Yearly or weekly doesnt make a big difference so whatever works for you. Depending on the platform small donations may have higher fees though.

[–] wiki_me@lemmy.ml 28 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This should probably be documented on the open collective page.

[–] nutomic@lemmy.ml 23 points 1 day ago

Right, updated.

[–] teagrrl@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

But I want to support lemmy.ml

[–] nutomic@lemmy.ml 27 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Then you can donate via Opencollective. But honestly it doesnt matter, because lemmy.ml hosting is already covered, and is very cheap compared to developer salaries.

[–] teagrrl@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 day ago

I appreciate the transparency! :)

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[–] Tears_of_a_Saint@slrpnk.net 3 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Do you have a preference as to which platform the donation is done through?

[–] nutomic@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 hours ago

Liberapay is preferable as it has low fees and is also open source.

[–] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

Have you considered applying for a FUTO grant?

https://futo.org/grants/

[–] nutomic@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 hours ago

I actually got in contact with them yesterday, will probably have a meeting soon to discuss how we can work together with them.

[–] pineapple@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I don't really mind which way I donate but I want to ensure I donate by giving the most money to lemmy and not to whatever platform is hosting it.

While I am not particularly interested in setting up crypto, aside from that which platform would you prefer I donated from?

[–] nutomic@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 hours ago

Liberapay is the best option, because it doesnt take any fees beyond payment processing, and its also open source. Thanks for donating!

[–] heavyboots@lemmy.ml 7 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Literally all we need is everyone to kick in a couple bucks a month and I think everything would be in great shape. I think the user base is like 65k+ users currently?

[–] nutomic@lemmy.ml 4 points 8 hours ago

Around 50k, it went back down from the recent high of 57k.

https://lemmy.fediverse.observer/dailystats

[–] tyfpgg@lemm.ee 3 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Just started a small monthly donation. I’ll up it, if I use lemmy more, but I appreciate its existence. Thank you Devs for your contribution.

[–] nutomic@lemmy.ml 1 points 7 hours ago

Youre welcome!

[–] bilb@lemmy.ml 2 points 9 hours ago

How long has it been since you've thought of the Zootopia Abortion Comic?

Anyway, I'll happily keep paying the devs.

[–] kepix@lemmy.world 4 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

not really related, but is this https://weblate.join-lemmy.org/projects/lemmy/lemmy/ the official way to translate the project? i dont donate due to my financial status, but i often do translation for opensource stuff.

[–] nutomic@lemmy.ml 2 points 7 hours ago

Yes thats right. Translations are also a good way to contribute.

[–] AccountMaker@slrpnk.net 29 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Donated on Liberapay.

As others have said, this is financing software development, not a political campaign. I first learned of the fediverse when Reddit removed 3rd party apps, and I felt like my eyes were opened. This is what I want the internet to be, decentralized and running on open source software, and I'm sure I'm far from being alone in this, so thanks to the devs for that.

Also Jerboa is great!

[–] Lucien@mander.xyz 4 points 13 hours ago

Jerboa is the best, it's how I browse Lemmy exclusively.

[–] wiki_me@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

a little more then 24h into the campaign.

patreon increased from $871 to $1,138 (+30%).

liberapay rose from $301 to $393.66 (+30%).

I think it could have been improved further , the text could be a bit longer (I talked to Nutomic and few suggestion were kinda shortened too much IMO). but i think we can overall call the campaign a success. I realize we can tweak and experiment with this for far too long and without A/B testing we could be "fooled by randomness" and make the wrong choices. but we could measure how many people leave the page of the text before we expect them to finish reading to get a indication if it is too small or big. information beats speculation.

Anyway this text is now "field tested" and should probably be used more with maybe minor tweaks (link to it from the website donate page and the pop up).

Is there any evidence the pop up asking for donation is working as intended? , adding randomness to this could make it too hard to debug.

I think what it does prove beyond all doubt if the pop up is working is that the pop up text is not enough. People want a clear and persuasive rational. underestimation potential donors ability to read a short text could be a costly mistake. a quick googling indicates a optimal length of about 1,000 to 2,500 words while the current text stands at about 500 words.

[–] nutomic@lemmy.ml 4 points 6 hours ago

Thanks for the analysis. In addition to the monthly donations there have also been many one-time donations. I agree that it makes sense to update the donation dialog and popup with adapted text from this post, will do that shortly.

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