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Five people survive 36 hours in alligator-infested swamp after plane crash (www.bbc.com)

submitted 3 days ago by HellsBelle@sh.itjust.works to c/world@lemmy.world

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Five people have been rescued after spending 36 hours atop a plane in an alligator-infested swamp in the Amazon after it was forced to make an emergency landing, local authorities said.

The small plane was found by local fishermen in Bolivia's Amazonas region on Friday having been missing for 48 hours.

The survivors - three women, a child and the 29-year-old pilot - were rescued in "excellent condition", Wilson Avila, director of the Beni Department's emergency operations centre, said.

A search and rescue mission was launched on Thursday after the plane disappeared from the radar of the Beni Department in central Bolivia.

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[–] essell@lemmy.world 61 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Infested?

Their home that is!

[–] mrslt@lemmy.world 20 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, people need to stop calling it that. An infestation implies they're not supposed to be there.

The correct term is "alligator-inhabited".

[–] jonathan7luke@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 day ago

An infestation implies they're not supposed to be there.

Alternate headline: Alligators survive 36 hours in human infested swamp

[–] Melatonin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 31 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It's not the alligators, it's the mosquitos

[–] PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago

Indeed. Gators are just chubby salamanders

[–] Stalinwolf@lemmy.ca 19 points 3 days ago (1 children)

"When asked how they managed to fend off the reptiles, crash survivor Amos Moses said, "I just knock 'em in da head wit a stump."

[–] Magikjak@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago

The Louisiana law gon’ get you Amos

[–] magikmw@lemm.ee 4 points 2 days ago

The alligators were very accomodating.

[–] ShittyBeatlesFCPres@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago

Wouldn’t it be caiman-infested in Bolivia and not alligator-infested? It’s South America.

[–] vegetvs@kbin.earth 3 points 3 days ago

If the kid was left behind, it would eventually become Blanka.

[–] GeorgimusPrime@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

No smoke monsters? Meh.

[+] witchybitchy@lemm.ee -9 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

the pilot doesn't deserve being gendered? the child, okay I can see having their info private. but "3 women, and child, and the pilot" just seems a lil weird y'know

they're named as Andres so they're probably male identifying (edit- the article also uses "he", so even likelier that they're male identifying) but still, the women are ID'd by their gender, but the child and pilot by their "role" or age or something. I hope it was a consent thing, the pilot didn't want to be listed by their gender, but the women were okay with it?

anyway, they couldn't drink the water they were floating in because of leaking plane fuel contaminating it, but they had some flour to eat so they were in somewhat healthy conditions. quoted as "amazing conditions", but I think that's relative to having been deemed missing for those 48hrs

they were extremely fortunate, but still that's gotta be a mind fuck to be surrounded by human-eating reptiles just lurking in the water outside the contaminated area. don't fall in! life saving water within arms reach but you can't get it safely. I'm glad they were airlifted to hospital, they probably needed a rehydration/water IV inserted

[–] aramis87@fedia.io 23 points 3 days ago (1 children)

the pilot doesn't deserve being gendered? the child, okay I can see having their info private. but "3 women, and child, and the pilot" just seems a lil weird

I read it as "readers know the plane must have had a pilot, so we're going to specifically mention that the pilot was also okay". And I would rather pilot remain a genderless word over references to "pilot" and "pilotess", or "the male pilot / the female pilot" or some other such nonsense.

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 5 points 3 days ago

They probably should have paralleled that by using "passengers", then.

[–] Eheran@lemmy.world 13 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Sexism is everywhere once you start looking for it.

[+] witchybitchy@lemm.ee -11 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (3 children)

ohh I see the male defaultism everywhere. I am a woman and work in a warehouse, it comes up often when all the folks (another woman in the warehouse with me) are referred to as "guys". sure, most of the folks are men but still, it's kinda disrespectful imo. but I saw a super clear example the other day watching a Cody Ko youtube video where Cody was commentating on, like, cringe podcasters or something. but there was a man who was addressing a 4 or 5 person group of only, all women. the male podcaster felt uncomfortable saying "hey women" or something and then chose "hey guys" instead. like, how more egregious can you get? they're ALL women, and yet you think it's a-ok to refer to them as "guys". how hard is it to go to "hey gals" or "hey ladies" 🙄 as an aside, I hate when people say "men and females" like we're a separate fucking species. I see that shit everywhere on less leftist communities, like reddit. haven't seen it too much yet on lemmy but it'll happen eventually as the site gains more users

[–] Barbarian@sh.itjust.works 16 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

To me, "guys" has been a gender-neutral term for a while now. At least that's how it's used here in my little bubble in Europe.

[–] uhmbah@lemmy.ca 11 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Same in my area of Canada.

[–] orclev@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It's the same in the US as well.

[–] ToastedRavioli@midwest.social 6 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Its also the same in basically every Spanish speaking country, considering that you would refer to a mixed group of people by a masculine word. Only a group of just women would get a feminine word, and only if there was zero ambiguity

There is a huge swath of the US where we dont say y’all, we dont say you all, we dont say youse, yinz, or none of that. We just say “you guys” to refer to any group of people, in the same place anyone would use any of those other words or phrases.

Its annoying people get bent out of shape about it as if its some artifact of the patriarchy when its literally just a non-country way of saying “y’all”. It undermines actual legitimate issues when people complain about non-issues like that

[–] HellsBelle@sh.itjust.works -2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Just wondering if either of you asked the girls/women how they feel about it.

[–] uhmbah@lemmy.ca 6 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Yes. Non issue here.

However, I prefer to use "folks". Am old and come from a time when it wasn't gender neutral.

[–] HellsBelle@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 days ago

I'm in my mid 60's. I put up with it but I don't like it much.

[–] PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago

Indeed. "Guys" here (US) is just the millennial version of "Folx"

[–] dahpu@feddit.org 5 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Non-native speaker here, but which terms could one use to address mixed groups?

I would use "Everybody", "Folks", "All" or simply "Hey there".

[–] orclev@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago

They're being overly sensitive, in most contexts guys is considered a gender neutral term these days. English is just dealing with the slow loss of gender from the language and it's reached the point where there are so few instances of gendered words left that the ones that are stick out and feel a little awkward. Or like in the case of the parent post where people fixate on the linguistic fossils left in the language and decide to take offense by intentionally interpreting phrases in anachronistic ways rather than modern usage.

[–] HK65@sopuli.xyz 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

comrades, workers and peasants of the glorious union /s

[–] pulido@lemmings.world 1 points 2 days ago

Hey everybody, this kid is just now realizing that the language people use reflects the world they live in!

Like it or not, we inherited a world where most professions were and still are occupied by males.

Honestly, you would get a lot more respect if you took a play out of the 'worker male' playbook and didn't complain about every little thing that makes you slightly uncomfortable. Over time, people would stop treating you differently because you're not acting different.