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I am trying to use my old laptops for self-hosting. One has a 6th gen Intel Core i3 (4GB ram), the other has an 11th gen Intel Core i5 (8GB ram). I have previously tried both ubuntu server and desktop but couldn't get it to work well. For the former I found it difficult to remote ssh and the latter I had difficulty installing Docker containers. (I'm not very good with the command line)

I would like to find an OS that is easier to setup with less of a neccesity for the command line (I would still like to learn how to use it though, I don't want to get rid of it entirely!). I've heard of CasaOS, is that a good option? It seems quite easy to use. What about other alternatives?

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[–] hperrin@lemmy.ca 107 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (30 children)

If you’re afraid of the terminal, you won’t get far in self hosting. You should learn to use the terminal. It’s not as scary as people make it sound.

You mentioned having issues with SSH into your old server. You can install a desktop environment if it makes things easier for you, but you should still learn how to be proficient in the terminal. Proxmox might help. It lets you create and manage VMs through a web interface. It can be annoying if you’re not super familiar with networking though.

[–] Mavytan@feddit.nl 9 points 1 week ago (15 children)

Could you recommend a source for learning how to use the command line? In the past I struggled with understanding the basic commands and the various flags. I've found it difficult to find good documentation, but I would like to learn

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[–] groet@feddit.org 47 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Generally, Linux Servers are best administered from a command line. At least in the beginning to set everything up. In turn they are faster on lower hardware as they dont even have a graphical desktop at all so need less resources. You could of course install a windows server OS. They can be fully administered through Remote Desktop and a GUI.

There are multiple projects to make self hosting more accessible (like casaOS). They automate many steps of the setup and then offer you a webUI for further steps. Maybe have a look here https://github.com/awesome-selfhosted/awesome-selfhosted?tab=readme-ov-file#self-hosting-solutions

[–] scheep@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Woah, there's a lot. Nice that there's plenty of options!

[–] hellequin67@lemm.ee 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I run my home media server ( and intel NUC i5, so nothing super powerful) running Ubuntu with CasaOS.

There's tons of you tube videos to help with CasaOS for self hosting and not just the media side.

I think I only used the terminal to install CasaOS the rest is done from the web gui

[–] Andromxda@lemmy.dbzer0.com 28 points 1 week ago (6 children)
[–] dmention7@lemm.ee 8 points 1 week ago

Beginner here (to Linux and networking anyways), running Unraid for about 18 months now. Fully agree, it's been great for actually getting up and doing useful things quickly and relatively pain free.

Eventually I would like to try working backwards and getting things running on a more "traditional" server environment, but Unraid has been a great learning tool for me personally.

It's like... Maybe some folks learned to overhaul an engine before they got their driver's license, but lots of people just need to a car to get to work and back today, and they can learn to change their oil and do a brake job when the time comes.

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[–] pHr34kY@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Almost all of selfhosting is editing config files, setting permissions and starting/stopping services.

Setting it up so you can administer a server by desktop is probably as hard as learning how to edit config files from a terminal. Maybe harder.

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[–] Guenther_Amanita@slrpnk.net 13 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

I can recommend you Debian, since it's the "default" for many servers and has a lot of documentation and an extremely big userbase.

For web interfaces, I can recommend you, as you already mentioned, CasaOS and Cockpit.

I used CasaOS in the beginning and liked it, but nowadays, I mostly use Cockpit, where I have the feeling that it integrates the host system more, and allows me to do most of my maintenance (updating, etc.) quite easily.

CasaOS is more aesthetic imo, and allows you to install docker containers graphically, which is better for beginners.
I personally do my docker stuff mostly via CLI (docker compose file) nowadays, because I find it more straightforward, but the configuration CasaOS offers is easier to understand and has nice defaults

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[–] whotookkarl@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago

The command line is an exceptionally useful tool, you may want to spend a little time getting familiar with it and common command line tools that would probably make self hosting almost anything easier.

It's like wanting to learn to play guitar but not learning how to restring and tune it, sure it's not necessary but you're going to be overly dependent on others to do something you could learn for yourself with a little time and patience, and it will probably broaden your perspective on what you can do once you do get familiar with how to pipe commands together and combine basic tools into something more sophisticated and complex.

[–] q7mJI7tk1@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

For what it's worth given the age of this thread and disagreement going on in it, I would recommend Unraid.

Easy for a beginner, with enough to take you up to intermediate level: a web GUI for pretty much all the required terminal commands. It's been around for years, is not going away, but instead getting updated. Works on any old eBay hardware and most of all, the community there are very supportive of beginners. There's also lots of YouTube tutorials.

It ticks all the boxes for easy self hosting. It's just not for Linux protocol purists.

EDIT: I'm learning a lot from this thread, and it's interesting to see how tolerant people are for self hosting. I would add in my vote for Unraid: it allows me to be dynamic with the time I have for self hosting. I'm sometimes extremely busy and don't have the time to keep my self hosting updated, so the web GUI is essential for basic maintenance. Then there are times when I do want to waste an afternoon trying something in terminal and learning more, and that's when Unraid again comes to the rescue. I couldn't self host with 100% terminal, and neither would I want to with 100% GUI. The best self hosting platform is one that can mix them up efficiently and effectively. I am keen to try some others mentioned here, as some look quite interesting. However NAS is a massive element of what I need for my homelab, so Unraid will stay for now.

[–] scheep@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I ended up installing Debian since Yunohost can't install and my old laptop doesn't meet the hardware requirements of TrueNAS Scale

[–] hendrik@palaver.p3x.de 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

By the way, you can still run the Yunohost installer ontop of your Debian install... If you want to... It's Debian-based anyway so it doesn't really matter if you use its own install media or use the script on an existing Debian install. Though I feel like adding: If you're looking for Docker... Yunohost might not be your best choice. It's made to take control itself and it doesn't use containers. Of course you can circumvent that and add Docker containers nonetheless... But that isn't really the point and you'd end up dealing with the underlying Debian and just making it more complicated.

It is a very good solution if you don't want to deal with the CLI. But it stops being useful once you want too much customization, or unpackaged apps. At least that's my experience. But that's kind of always the case. Simpler and more things automatically and pre-configured, means less customizability (or more effort to actually customize it).

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[–] testman@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 week ago

YUNOHost iso is basically just Debian, but the one-click-install for various self-hosted things is it's primary purpose. All done through web interface.

[–] toynbee@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

I misread that as "self-loathing" and the answer was obvious.

[–] glitching@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

don't go with server variants of the OS. they are intended for boxes that work without display and keyboard, which you have. instead, install any normal distro you're familiar with. it's infinitely easier to fix something with the full GUI at your disposal.

this is just your first install, you will iterate, and through that process you'll get better and leaner, in terms of underlying OS. think of it as training wheels on a bike, you'll pull them off eventually.

wired connection only, leave wireless turned off, and assign it a static IP address.

don't do containerS, do one container first. figure out where you're gonna store the compose files, where it will store data, how you will back that data up, etc. then add another. does it fit into your setup? do you need to modify something? rinse. repeat.

casaOS, aside from it's murky background (some chinese startup or sumsuch, forgot?) doesn't provide that path forward nor allows you to learn something, too much hand holding.

good luck.

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[–] anamethatisnt@sopuli.xyz 9 points 1 week ago (8 children)

I would recommend trying out Cockpit (Github) and Portainer (Github).
Cockpit gives you a WebUI for Linux and Portainer gives you a WebUI for Docker.
Personally I usually run Debian Stable for servers, but choice of distro matters little if you run stuff as Docker containers.

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[–] Churbleyimyam@lemm.ee 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

YUNOhost is designed for this. You can do almost everything graphically via the webadmin. Mine has been running for a couple of years and I'm very happy with it. I have email, XMPP (both of which were installed out of the box), a website, file sharing and a few other things. There are a tonne of apps available, including Fediverse instances, Nextcloud. It's a very cool thing to have available for making self-hosting more accessible.

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[–] asudox@lemmy.asudox.dev 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

You can install some Linux distro and then install a docker management web UI like coolify. Requires little terminal knowledge. Though you should learn the terminal.

Try the Fedora Server distro, afaik it should come with Cockpit installed: https://fedoraproject.org/server/

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[–] kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 1 week ago (18 children)

Keep in mind the reason why people generally dont run desktop environments on a server is because unessential software uses more resources and increases the chance of a system crash. I would highly reccomend learning how to use a terminal and installing fish (shell) is a great place to start.

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[–] EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I believe all of these are actually just running Debian as the actual OS underneath, but they give you a webui that makes deploying apps easier.

Of these three, I like the look of Cosmos the most. Seems to be security focused and comes with a reverse proxy and a built in SSO solutions. That’s something that’s usually a pain in the ass to set up yourself.

There’s technically that stupid ass LTT OS but I’m purposely leaving that one out.

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[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

I am very much a Windows user and my journey went like this:
Raspberry Pi with OMV -> SSH on OMV -> Mostly Terminal on OMV -> Docker + Portainer to deploy containers -> Transition to docker-compose -> Setup my own VM with Debian completely in the CLI (excluding the first setup of the VM)

I use Linux (primarily Debian because of Raspberry as I don't like what I hear about Ubuntu) primarily for VMs and servers and Windows as the client OS

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