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Originally this was a reply to this article about a Windows feature called Recall, but there's a good argument the author's concerns resonate far beyond Windows and Meta to proprietary generally.

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[–] Tenderizer78@lemmy.ml 1 points 5 days ago

Just deleted my Facebook account. Now I just need any of my friends to install Threema (or maybe Revolt?).

I just finished my accounting course yesterday, but I'm not sure my assignments met the training guidelines so I'm hesitant to uninstall Windows if I may be asked to come back and redo some assignments (not sure I even need Windows for that though).

Reddit is still an issue, can't find Twitter manga and de-Americaification advice on Lemmy.

YouTube I've reduced my engagement on but haven't deleted. Discord I'm lurking in some essential group chats. Still on an 10-year old iPhone, gotta get a new open-source one. I'm sticking with Steam for games.

[–] Paddy66@lemmy.ml 2 points 6 days ago

https://distrosea.com/ this is amazing for previewing linux OS flavours right in your browser, no need for a USB stick or installation! Linux Mint, Zorin, Ubuntu and Fedora are the winners for me in terms of being normie friendly.

[–] woop_woop@lemmy.world 224 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (10 children)

"im a henchman for a bad guy....and lemme tell you...I think we might be starting to do bad stuff...not sure yet..."

Thanks bud

[–] JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca 117 points 1 week ago (13 children)

At some point we need to start welcoming people to the Light, instead of demonizing them for having been in the Dark. It's pretty difficult for me not to dunk on people as they wake up to the nightmare that they voted for, but a lot them ARE actually otherwise decent folks. Making America Great is going to involve deprogramming a lot of people.

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[–] irotsoma@lemmy.blahaj.zone 28 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (6 children)

Unfortunately, not everyone has a choice in who they work for in end-stage-capitalism. Work is about survival, not ideology. The majority of Americans are not far-right capitalists, but the vast majority of CEOs are, and it's not really possible to survive long enough to start a small business in most of the US without investment from a far-right capitalist or inheritance (usually also from a far-right capitalist family member).

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[–] ShrimpCurler@lemmy.dbzer0.com 26 points 1 week ago (1 children)

People gotta earn money to survive, I don't blame the employees for this. And this is not just a case of Meta's privacy being bad. This is close government involvement with potentially serious impacts and implications across all US based platforms.

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[–] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 120 points 1 week ago (6 children)

It's funny how they're saying "You need to use Linux" and not "You need to get off Facebook". How's Linux going to save you from Facebook spying on you?

[–] ShrimpCurler@lemmy.dbzer0.com 58 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I think the be careful what you do on Facebook is implied. He's highlighting something that's less expected, where you may need to be careful what you do on Windows systems.

[–] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 25 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

They mentioned Microsoft updating privacy agreements at the same time as other companies, and OP mentioned that the context was a discussion of a Windows ultra-keylogger type of feature, the implication is they're in on this shit too, and Linux is a way to not use Windows.

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[–] youngalfred@lemm.ee 81 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That first comma is a bit out of place - 'why won't you just try, Linux?'
'seriously Linux, just try your vegetables'.

[–] InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago (2 children)

It can't. Its just a kernel. Maybe with the right gnu core utils...

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[–] upstroke4448@lemmy.dbzer0.com 80 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Its a bit odd to see an employee of a company that has always had a terrible privacy policy now be suddenly alarmed.

[–] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 63 points 1 week ago (12 children)

Things have changed. Before, the worst Facebook could do to its critics was ban them and those that they knew. Now Facebook can have ICE turnover your house without a warrant for a troll post. A private company is now working to suppress a specific kind of conversation that questions the judgement and actions of those in power. It's a subtle but very dangerous difference in why a bad EULA may not have previously caused concern but the new one is.

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[–] index@sh.itjust.works 51 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Protests crack down on the internet has been going on for quite some time, don't just blame it on trump but on the whole government and its infrastructure.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occupy_Wall_Street

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 25 points 1 week ago (10 children)

And Facebook as an integrated part of the international surveillance state has been firmly established since Snowden leaked the PRISM program.

Like, there are a lot of reasons to switch to linux and plenty of them are compelling. But its an absolute fantasy to believe you're somehow immune to surveillance because you're using the same software as Amazon's EC2. Does anyone really believe the NSA hasn't cracked Linux Mint yet?

Or, for that matter, that using a linux desktop is going to insulate you from being spied on via a public facing 3rd party social media forum?

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[–] hansolo@lemm.ee 44 points 1 week ago (6 children)

I've done OSINT research and that alone converted me into a privacy advocate. Seeing how Alphabet, Meta, and MS have allowed creep to get training data... Whew. It's breathtaking and complicated beyond the ability to explain in 114 characters.

Y'all, we are cooked. Currently. Present tense. If you aren't freaked out already, you're missing about 85% of reality.

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[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 41 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (8 children)

One should be have been assuming since Windows 7 and automated online updates that the Microsoft key used to sign OS updates is in the hands of at least the NSA (and hence probably the Israeli equivalent) and they can push whatever they want to your computer as an OS update, bypassing all protections.

In fact the same applies to Linux updates of certain distros - if they're maintained by a company based in the US they can be forced by FISA courts to provide the signing keys to the US Government.

More in general, just go read about FISA courts and their secret court orders - companies based in the US or hosting things in the US can be secretly forced to just "give the keys of the Realm" to parts of the US Government.

Since things like the Patriot act one should be treating companies based in the US as just as untrustworthy as companies based in China.

(By the way, some other supposed Democratic countries have similar or worse systems - for example the equivalent of FISA courts in the UK have things like secret court sessions were the side which is not the State is not authorized to have a legal representation, see most of the evidence or even know the decision of the court).

Have people already forgot most of what came out in the Snowden Revelations?!

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[–] TootTootComingThru@lemmy.world 40 points 1 week ago

If this is the same person I think it is, I would take their comments with a huge pile of salt. Not saying they're wrong, but...

A couple years ago this Linux-Is-Best dipshit somehow got onboarded as a mod of the /r/massachusetts subreddit, started banning a ton of users for pretty unreasonable reasons, brought a few other seemingly random moderators on board and almost nuked it out of existence by being an unhinged little weirdo. They claimed to have worked at Facebook/Meta and I forget which, but they were found out either to have made it up or they were just a bottom tier content moderation employee.

You can go find some posts about it, but this person's not well at all even if you happen to agree with them. If this is the same person. They're not trust worthy. Privacy's important, big companies are creepy, do what you can to protect yourself and use linux if that's what gets you there, but again I would take anything this dipshit says with a grain of salt.

https://www.reddit.com/r/SubredditDrama/comments/11wsnla/mod_of_3_months_in_rmassachusetts_purges_members/

https://www.reddit.com/r/Massachusetts_US/comments/11wnjsk/removed_by_reddit/

https://www.reddit.com/r/massachusetts/comments/11xw44r/linux_is_gone/

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 39 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (7 children)

imagine how great it feels to say this for like 10-15 years while getting dismissed as a conspiracy nut.

and then having it happen exactly as you said it would.

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[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 39 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Switching from Windows to Linux isn't going to block them from monitoring your use of online services. Facebook doesn't even do anything in the OS space.

[–] illi@lemm.ee 44 points 1 week ago

I think what they are getting at is that Meta does this and they find it likely Microsoft might be doing something similar.

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[–] Apocalypteroid@lemmy.world 29 points 1 week ago (3 children)

To all the people who are criticising this guy for working for Meta, I would like to remind you of the phrase, "Keep your friends close, but keep your enemies closer".

I am very much a left-winger, but I still read right-wing papers and articles, I like to know what the other side is thinking.

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[–] Allero@lemmy.today 25 points 1 week ago (2 children)

The Linux Foundation itself is in the US jurisdiction - just sayin'.

Which is why I repeatedly called for the Foundation to move into Europe, potentially into Finland, back to its roots.

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[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 23 points 1 week ago (6 children)

Do, or do not, there is no try.

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[–] olafurp@lemmy.world 23 points 1 week ago

FUCK YEAH, YEAR OF THE LINUX DESKTOP

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