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A threads post saying "There has never been another nation ever that has existed much beyond 250 years. Not a single one. America's 250th year is 2025. The next 4 years are gonna be pretty interesting considering everything that's already been said." It has a reply saying "My local pub is older than your country".
Rome lasted for 2,000 years because I consider the Byzantines as true Romans.
I dunno, I'm pretty sure Japan is older.
Depends what you define as nation. Modern day Japan is only 157 years old since the Meiji Restoration started in 1868.
Like the US will still exist after the American empire collapses but sure as hell not in it’s current form.
Then the US can only count since the civil war 🤷♂️ Or maybe since Hawaii's invasion (1959).
I don't consider different eras as different nations though. I think that's splitting too many hairs. I see a nation as a country that is generally united and governed by a leading entity.
Going back to the Japan example, I would consider them a nation when all the clans were united under one rule. Same with UK, India, Thailand etc.
Because the concept of a nation state is not much older, no? American Independence and French Revolution were among the first movements.
Isn't it kinda interesting, that the first nation is still a thing? France is in it's 5th iteration.
i think the first poster misunderstood a quote and I can't reproduce it anymore either. it was something about no empire lasted more then 250 years? or no government form or something among these lines? it was not about the country disapearing in name or anything, but that it damatically changes in one way or another like completly changing the form of government
Even if this were true, this would be anthropic reasoning, which is always suspect. The belief that the present, the here and now, cannot be exceptional will always overlook examples where it is exceptional.
We live in interesting times.
My country is 900 years old and my people has inhabited these lands before the romans ever dreamed of set foot here.
That is plain ignorance.
This isn't a facepalm. As any red-blooded American knows, the only country worth mentioning is America. Since all countries of note were founded after America, this OP is correct.
I believe the ottoman empire (1299–1922) would like a word.
It probably has a more stable foundation too!
How many different countries has your pub survived?
Remember the time we stumbled on an old local church with an American coworker. Yes dude, that thing was over 500 years old when Columbus discovered your continent, allegedly.