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[–] ImplyingImplications@lemmy.ca 100 points 12 hours ago (3 children)

Salvador Allende, President of Chile and leader of the Socialist Party of Chile

From Wikipedia:

On 11 September 1973, the military moved to oust Allende in a coup d'état supported by the CIA, which initially denied the allegations. In 2000, the CIA admitted its role in the 1970 kidnapping of General René Schneider who had refused to use the army to stop Allende's inauguration. Declassified documents released in 2023 showed that US president Richard Nixon, his national security advisor Henry Kissinger, and the United States government, which had branded Allende as a "dangerous" communist, were aware of the military's plans to overthrow Allende's democratically elected government in the days before the coup d'état. As troops surrounded La Moneda Palace, Allende gave his last speech vowing not to resign. Later that day, Allende died by suicide in his office; the exact circumstances of his death are still disputed.

[–] Mateoto@lemmy.world 8 points 2 hours ago

I watched a documentary on Arte a few months ago, since I never really knew much about Allende and the circumstances of the coup d’état.

Two aspects I found personally interesting:

  1. A reactionary and conservative opposition — backed by powerful elites and foreign influence — was blocking all progress and reforms initiated by the democratically elected Allende government.

  2. Allende’s response to the sabotage and obstruction by the conservative and right-wing opposition was to continue seeking dialogue, uphold the constitution, and try to avoid a constitutional crisis at all costs.

A lot of similarities and parallels can be seen today in how conservative and right-wing parties operate — using the same playbook we saw back then in Chile. A strategy all too familiar, and somehow still (and once again) disturbingly effective.

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 27 points 9 hours ago

The reason behind the coup? Money, in the form of copper. Chile's main export was copper and Allende nationalized the mines.

[–] crumbguzzler5000@feddit.org 5 points 7 hours ago

I feel like this should be big news, not that the rest of the world cares about what happens in the south americas

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 68 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (3 children)

Not letting the USA exploit the living shit out of the rest of the world actually would have unironically prevented 9/11 because then Osama Bin Laden wouldn't have had a reason to hate the US for the economic terrorism that was so successful. He attacked the twin towers as the center of the US economic world for a reason.

I often wonder how Bin Laden would feel about our current own self-inflicted economic turmoil. Where Bin Laden failed, we managed to do to ourselves without any external pressure.

The economic and social fallout in the United States from 9/11 was the ultimate goal.

The terrorists won. Al Qaeda did what they set out to do, destabilize America like America has destabilized much of the world.

[–] Microw@lemm.ee 4 points 8 hours ago

Tbf Bin Laden could easily have found a different reason to hate the US, or chosen a different target country. He did join the mujahedeen against the Sovjets/Russians first anyways

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 7 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Maybe some of the current shit is long ripples after his terrorist attack. Americans still complain about the airport security being super invasive

The airport being invasive has almost nothing to do with the attacks, since it's effectively all security theater.

That had more to do with giving companies certain senators had investments in sweetheart deals to roll out full body x-ray scanners. It also served as a stealth jobs program for Bush's dogshit economy. The attacks were a convenient excuse for both.

[–] stray@pawb.social 16 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

The character in the first panel of that meme is Tomoko Kuroki from the anime "Watashi ga Motenai no wa Dou Kangaetemo Omaera ga Warui!", commonly shortened to "Watamote".

This is my punishment for trying to avoid making a post just to ask what show this is from.

[–] renzhexiangjiao@lemmy.blahaj.zone 18 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

it's homura akemi from mahou shoujo madoka magica though

[–] stray@pawb.social 3 points 2 hours ago

Thank you. <3

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

On the other hand literally nobody is confused about who Charlie and Pim are.

[–] can@sh.itjust.works 3 points 8 hours ago

Smiling Friends.

[–] FelixCress@lemmy.world 4 points 12 hours ago

So what happened on 9th November?

[–] Sibbo@sopuli.xyz 3 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Or like, Hitler or something...

[–] stray@pawb.social 15 points 12 hours ago (3 children)

I was thinking about that the other day, the moral dilemma of whether you'd kill baby Hitler. But then I realized suddenly that you don't have to kill baby Hitler at all. You can just kidnap him away to some other family or any number of other non-baby-killing interventions.

[–] Not_Dav3@lemmy.world 1 points 18 minutes ago

You could sabotage his gas mask so he dies in WW1, not like he did anything important before then. Your proposition is nicer, though

[–] Midnitte@beehaw.org 3 points 10 hours ago (3 children)

Or the fact that we'd lose the example of the holocaust to prevent future holocausts... but then the moral dilemma of choosing to let so many people die... but then also the fact that holocaust ignorance seems to be growing anyway despite having the example and overwhelming (horrific) evidence of the holocaust.....

[–] Hoimo@ani.social 1 points 22 minutes ago

You'd think humans don't need the example of the holocaust to know not to do a holocaust.

Reminds me of Yukio Mishima's novel Beautiful Star, written in the early Cold War (1962), where the main character bemoans that humans just did a full World War and now, when faced with the horror of nuclear destruction, don't seem to have learned anything from years of traditional destruction and are ready to do it all over again. "If they could just imagine they'd done it already and say 'never again'!"

[–] kittenroar@beehaw.org 3 points 4 hours ago

Ironically, Israelis use the previous Holocaust to excuse the one they are creating. And the US is providing the weapons to increase the death count. And that isn't the only holocaust the US is supporting.

[–] greenskye@lemm.ee 2 points 7 hours ago

You go back to stop it, only to be stopped by an even later time traveler trying to stop you from making it worse.

Then there's a time traveler trying to stop that guy from stopping you from stopping Hitler. Repeat that a few more times.

Turns out in the end Hitler was the way he was because of all the time travelers constantly fighting each other nearby.

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Thank you! Finally someone else who gets it. The way he was raised impacted who he was. Nature and nurture. Taking him out of that environment would change his life path and direction.

[–] Venus_Ziegenfalle@feddit.org 2 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Imagine coming back to history books talking about the Austrian philantropist Adolf Hitler. I'd let him do a German version of "The Joy of Painting" I think.

[–] lime@feddit.nu 2 points 11 hours ago

sound of music