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[–] termaxima@programming.dev 1 points 2 days ago

But the upside is they’re very helpfully signposting themselves now !

[–] HalfSalesman@lemm.ee 1 points 6 days ago

Not just one of the worst but arguably the worst.

One day Trump wont be president but his supporters will continue to be around after him. They'll continue to make up 31% of the voter eligible population.

[–] Rucifer@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 days ago
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[–] InvertedParallax@lemm.ee 174 points 1 week ago (6 children)

They were always here.

I escaped from the south to the coasts, but I always tried to warn people how vile the worst of us were.

Nobody coukd believe it, but remember, Hitler wrote about the south as the model for Germany in mein kampf, and the nazis copied the Nuremberg Laws from Jim crow almost verbatim.

[–] Hermit_Lailoken@lemmy.world 60 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

They also took inspiration from the Catholic Church and the inquisition. The Church did ethnic cleansing long before the Nazis.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 26 points 1 week ago (2 children)

The also took inspiration from the Catholic Church

Not just inspiration but also direct material support.

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[–] hanrahan@slrpnk.net 101 points 1 week ago (7 children)
[–] uawarebrah@sh.itjust.works 50 points 1 week ago
[–] ContessaChaos@lemmy.world 38 points 1 week ago (1 children)

She's damn sure old enough to know better. 😡

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[–] 4grams@awful.systems 80 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Without a doubt this is the worst part. It was an immediate and irreversible swing from being an optimist who believes in the good of people to the complete opposite. I now believe humanity is fundamentally flawed and will destroy itself.

Watched too much Star Trek as a kid I guess.

[–] Initiateofthevoid@lemmy.dbzer0.com 47 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (5 children)

I used to think similarly. The outright hatred, apathy, hostility... its sickening.

But I stand by Mr. Rogers' message. Look for the helpers.

Humanity has always grappled with its angels and demons. No fictional evil could ever compare to the cruelty and apathy of real humans being real shit. But despite all that, humans keep trying, and have always kept trying.

This isn't the worst it's ever been. This isn't even the worst it's been here. This isn't even the worst it's been, here, in living memory.

If you know someone over the age of 60, you know someone older than the civil rights act.

Even in a life where discrimination wasn't possible so much as it was fundamental in society, John Lewis and MLK Jr. still had faith in humanity. They still believed in its potential. They still had faith in the face of all of that hatred and ignorance. Faith that a better nation and a better future could be forged in their lifetimes.

And you know what? They were right.

Even today, with all of these threats to return to a time when America was "great"... even now, this is still a better nation than the America of 1963. That is undeniable truth, and it is in large part thanks to heroes like them.

If they could believe in the potential of humanity, I think it's arrogant of us to disagree.

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[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 33 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I once proudly said "when the internet is cheap and easy, everyone will have full access to all information and it will be effortlessly easy for people to stop believing falsehoods and it'll start a swing towards reason!"

I just want to hug teenage me.

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[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 75 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (5 children)

It didn't take Trump to make this real for me.

I remember how our country treated Muslims after 9/11. I remember how we treated people with AIDS and HIV when I was little. Right now I'm watching Nazi salutes on national TV and no one's getting punched even though the room is packed with the supposed opposition, and the people who consider themselves progressive are unironically enjoying people's families inability to afford food staples.

[–] pahlimur@lemmy.world 42 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Progressives are becoming more radical as a response to right wing extremism.

I was raised republican and was completely caught up in their propaganda. During that time I would've let you starve to death while holding food if I was told you were part of the 'bad' group. You need to treat Republicans as the dangerous entity they are, don't bother being empathetic, they won't ever reciprocate.

[–] TheLowestStone@lemmy.world 29 points 1 week ago (19 children)

don’t bother being empathetic, they won’t ever reciprocate.

If your statement is true, then you are evidence that we need to at least leave the door open to allow people who come to their senses a path to redemption.

[–] fluffykittycat@slrpnk.net 24 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You're not wrong but they have to be the ones to take the first step. If they don't want to we can't force them and we don't have time for that nonsense anymore. There should be Redemption paths but if someone's just awful that's their problem and we have to defeat them

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[–] peregrin5@lemm.ee 61 points 1 week ago (5 children)

"Basket of Deplorables" -- as I'm tired of repeating, Hilary was right.

[–] DrBob@lemmy.ca 53 points 1 week ago (1 children)

She was. She was John the Baptist but wanted to be Jesus. Opinion on her was fully established so even if she was 45% positive you could never move the dial on the 6% you needed to push her over the top.

She would have been an outstanding attack dog for a fresh candidate if she could have put her ego aside and accept that it wouldn't be her.

[–] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 35 points 1 week ago (11 children)

She was trying to follow eight years of Obama that had primed an electorate for a radical change candidate. She was not going to be that and in fact personified that her Party would unfortunately not be the one to change.

[–] Xanthobilly@lemmy.world 41 points 1 week ago (2 children)

She was also a terrible candidate in the same way Kamala was, which is something people still don’t accept. They both had terrible PR and were establishment pro-corporate candidates. Those two features guaranteed they wouldn’t extend past their base. At the time Bernie was offering a populist agenda, which is what Trump used to win both times. The DNC still to this day cannot shed corporate influence enough to do what’s necessary to win.

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[–] jimjam5@lemmy.world 43 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Dang, looks like that one guy on the left got a “TRUMP” tat on his NECK. I’m sure he won’t have any ragrets down the road.

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[–] andros_rex@lemmy.world 42 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Living in a southern state that is solid red - it’s just difficult to exist. Much more than half of the people I interact with would not view me as a human being if I weren’t stealth about my transness - if I didn’t pass. These people voted against my rights and safety. I’m surrounded by people who think people like me are subhuman.

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[–] ToastedPlanet@lemmy.blahaj.zone 41 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I already knew that there were plenty of awful people in the US since I studied the civil rights movement in school. Watching white people use fire hoses against Black people and white people being ok with that was a clue. For me the worst part has been watching my friends and family be brainwashed by the MAGA movement. People who I know to be otherwise wonderful people.

For me it's the answer to the zombie question. Do zombies have some part of their former personality still inside? The answer is definitely yes, and not some part, but 100% of their former selves.

I'll be talking to my Mom and she'll be her old self again for a whole conversation. Like the last decade never happened. Then something political will come up and she'll be gone again. And I'm stuck arguing with this zombie.

Fox News has taken multiple family members and I'm sure many more friends. Unlike zombies there was no attack or infection. The brainwashing happened through radio, television, and social media. And unlike zombies there is hope, because people do get out of cults.

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[–] Vespair@lemm.ee 38 points 1 week ago (8 children)

I'll never recover, personally. The way my world-view was shattered by how many not just nameless strangers, but people I actually know and interact with, are the worst sort of hateful monsters.

My world is a different place now, and I don't think I'll ever feel the same.

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[–] Alph4d0g@discuss.tchncs.de 33 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I think it's about time that the progressives start pandering to the dumbass class. Promising to do all sorts of dumbass and unconstitutional things and then supporting actual progressive policy when they get into office.

If this worked for the current Manchurian dumbass candidate - progressives can surely get their deception game in order.

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[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 32 points 1 week ago (7 children)

It's also amazing just how incredibly tacky the MAGA movement is.

The Nazis were evil, but at least they wore clothing designed by Hugo Boss. At least they borrowed from impressive looking Roman-style banners and eagles. They understood how to use colour, light and so-on to project strength. Even if you acknowledge that the Nazis were evil, at least you can sort of understand why the German people were drawn in.

But the MAGA movement is so weak, so tacky. Even if I were somehow 100% aligned with their beliefs, I wouldn't want to associate with them in public because their whole aesthetic is so embarrassing. I can't understand how anybody can look at Trump and see competence, intelligence and strength. I also can't understand how anybody can look at a typical MAGA rally and see anything other than a design scheme that would make even Wal*Mart cringe.

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[–] wanderwisley@lemm.ee 26 points 1 week ago

I am born and raised in a small rural town in northern Nevada, and from my personal experience people have always been this level of unhinged in someway or another. With the rise of the Internet and Trump. It just became more easily accessible to talk to and listen to other unhinged individuals.

[–] CheeryLBottom@lemmy.world 26 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Maybe Reagan shouldn't have closed down the mental institutes and facilitate the stifling of access to mental health

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[–] Prandom_returns@lemm.ee 25 points 1 week ago

The big realisation, for me, was during Covid. I haven't recovered since. My view of people, in general, has changed forever.

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