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This gender war identity politics shit is just key jingling to distract the masses from the fact that the new robber barons are simultaneously fleecing everyone's retirement and inserting a knife into our collective kidneys.
Glad to see a lot of comments just ain't falling for it.
It's pretty easy to tell the difference between venomous and non-venomous snakes.
The venomous ones are female? /S
Wait how? That sounds useful to know.
Square or angular heads generally mean they're venomous. Rounded heads mean non-venomous.
That doesn't mean non-venomous is safe. They can still bite and could transfer a bacteria. If you don't know for sure, just keep your distance.
I think the point is it is one species of snake that all looks the same yet some are venomous and others are not.
For example. What if some rattle snakes were not venomous but others, that looked exactly the same, were.
The point is is that it's a bad analogy to support a shitty world view.
Didn't we learn as children that stereotypes are bad and hurtful? Like why is this one an acceptable thing to lump all men together under the same group? The rhetoric rarely makes a distinction. It lazily doors not differentiate the different problem groups within that and stops at blanket statements that cover more people who aren't the issues than are.
When you treat an entire gender as the enemy, stop being surprised when the young men are increasingly not acting like allies.
The power of rhetoric being forgotten is probably my chief criticism of the “purity test” wing of the left. Perfect being enemy of the good is very lost on people who seem not to want to acknowledge that even things they don’t like might have nuance.
I don't think that the original tweet is really getting at stereotypes, but rather pointing out how frustrating it must be to not know who's going to be a scumbag and who is not.
It's not all men, most certainly, yet chauvinism counties to be (an increasing problem). One of the (very make dominated) places I worked had to put up signs that read looking versus leering: know the difference. I'm male, and I most certainly get the frustration after hearing more than a few first hand accounts about how women are routinely mistreated.
The original tweet is a response to people who are annoyed at being stereotyped. I get it. I have daughters I wish didn't have to worry about this shit. But I also think we're not addressing the problem the right way. It's actually making the problem worse and isolating people enough that they fall to the sway of fascist propaganda.
If you take this same tweet and swap out men with [your minority racial/religious/gender group of your choice] it'll probably get you banned in most communities here. But it's about men (generalized) so it is for some reason allowed.
If you take this same tweet and swap out men with [your minority racial/religious/gender group of your choice] it’ll probably get you banned in most communities here. But it’s about men (generalized) so it is for some reason allowed.
"If you take criticism of aggressors and swap it out to criticize their victims instead, it pisses people off."
No shit, Sherlock! That's because aggressors are different than victims.
Is black man an aggressor or a victim?
Honestly these comments are giving me hope that people are being sensible.
Too often in leftists spaces the conversation is dominated by the loudest voices taking the most extreme black and white position. Which just pushes makes the culture war nonsense worse.
Damn, looking at these comments maybe lemmy isn't any better than reddit. That is the underlying platform is, but not the people on it.
Here's everyone's daily reminder that, in the US at least, 40% of rapists are women, and fully half of rape victims are men.
Reminds me of when Donald Trump Jr. compared Syrian refugees to a bowl of M&Ms with some of them poisoned. Same argument, same mindset.
I'm going to ignore the most heinous aspects of this and just say, I'd love to be introduced to a variety of venomous and non-venomous snakes and would likely find it to be a pretty cool experience. Snakes are neat and the venomous ones are often beautiful and fascinating.
I’m with you.
One might try learning a little bit about snakes before being introduced to them. I’d probably do that. I wouldn’t want to be around a bunch of snakes and not have at least an idea of how to differentiate a poisonous snake from a friendly, non harmful snake.
If I were to assume that all of the snakes are bad or going to hurt me, I’d sure be a real dummy. There’s so much information available out there and as an adult I’m able to use that info to stay safe.
Even better that I’ll be introduced to snakes and that I wont be walking out into the jungle alone, without knowledge, agitating the leglesss wildlife. Should I infer that there’s going to be an expert there too? Makes it sound pretty cool.
So we're fixing the division along gender lines by becoming... more divided?
Feels like the insinuation here is that, as a woman, it's acceptable to base your personality on men as long as you believe all men base their personalities on hating women.
Maybe just accept that humans are complicated and nuanced and you can't judge an entire gender based on the actions of the worst members of that gender.
I understand the problem people have with men and more specifically toxic masculinity, but this gender wars bullshit only serves to further separate people. What's the purpose of saying "men are rapists" or "men are violent"? It's fine in the context of venting/talking with people facing similar problems, but because it entirely misses the sociological causes, it can cause people come to incorrect conclusions like "kill all men" or "all men are inherently bad because..." which essentialises their gender.
Men aren't inherently bad. It's patriarchy and toxic masculinity that you should be upset at - two sides of the same coin, really.
men aren't inherently bad... Etc.
Looks like you understand the intent of the original tweet.
Not all men - but some men - and we (other men) need to start calling our the Tater-tots and the like
Sure. After all the big religions start weeding out shitty members at every single level. Youd get rid of a lot of rapists that way.
I'm just reading this thread and finding it hilarious how many are triggered by this. The post isn't even saying "all men" do anything, it's specifically pointing out a small subset of men.
I think Lemmy might be growing up and attracting brigading Reddit CHUDs.
I like to think about Lemmy comments as coming from 30 of my closest autistic friends.
Holy shit.
This comment section is amazing. Good job all
That'd work until you happen to get a reptile enthusiast on the show that can recognize the species, at which point you just have a show of a guy completely missing the point whilst nerding out over snakes.
I think the point is that people who say (shout) "Not All Men" are usually frustratingly insensitive and the thought of throwing them into a snake pit is fun. We know it's not all men, we aren't stupid, but we also know that even 1% would be one percent too many to feel safe alone with a stranger (and, unfortunately, statistics suggest harassment is certainly more than 1%!).
Well, most people aren't that stupid. There's a few who are, but I don't think they'd be posting here, lol.
That said, reading the comments, I get why some are offended even though being male is the privileged class in this comparison (after all, I don't feel afraid to walk home at 1am). Men are fucked by the patriarchy, told to repress their emotions, degrade people who break from masculinity, and so forth. But instead of saying "you're being sexist against men," please try to think of the systemic problems that led to that X% of assholes who make it unsafe for a woman (or POC, LGBTQ, etc) to walk alone on a street in America.