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[–] dbtng@eviltoast.org 10 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

Um ... This doxing threat seems like a really dumb move, on par with daring Anonymous to take you down. Really, if you want to play Internet hardball, there are folks that would love to show you how it works. (Not me!)

[–] collapse_already@lemmy.ml 41 points 16 hours ago

The Heritage Foundation is located at:

214 Massachusetts Avenue NE, Washington, D.C., U.S.

[–] pineapple@lemmy.ml 40 points 21 hours ago (3 children)

What does the heritage foundation have against Wikipedia?

[–] Jumpingspiderman@lemmy.world 10 points 8 hours ago

It prints the truth more often than not.

[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 74 points 21 hours ago (5 children)
[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 18 points 17 hours ago (6 children)

The best counter to bias is in an openly edited project is contributing corrected information with high quality sources. So instead of spending their time doxxing wikipedia editors, how about actually contributing quality data?

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 7 points 10 hours ago

What high quality data? They have nothing, that's why they are doing this bullshit.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 15 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

Are you really saying that conservative groups should start publishing facts?

I'm guessing you don't quite understand how these people work. Most of their policies are crap and most people are still smart enough to understand so they lie. They lie a lot. They lie about just about everything.

See Fox News, for example. Whenever fox News tells a truth, an angel gets its wings and let's just say that angels learned to dig like worms instead.

See influencers like Ben Shapiro whom I just saw fantasising about his sister btw

See president cheeto, who would excuse himself if he ever said a truth

Truth and facts are poison to these people

Are you really saying that conservative groups should start publishing facts?

Yes.

I also understand how they work. That doesn't change the fact that they should change to start publishing facts.

Some of their policies are acceptable (on paper). I'm generally a fan of lower taxes (ironically, the progressive income tax was created under Republicans Roosevelt and Taft), smaller scope of federal government, and reducing barriers to economic development. And that used to be what conservatives in the US stood for, at least on paper. These days they're merely obstructionist and don't seem to actually have a plan themselves, adding as much or more to the national deficit compared to Democrats.

I'm long past believing anyone with power will actually act on their ideological convictions. Democrats are supposed to be the pro-worker party, yet Biden gave railroad workers a pretty crappy deal. Republicans are supposed to be "fiscally conservative," yet spending rose dramatically during Trump's first term and is rising this year too (despite claiming to make fiscal cuts), and here's the official Treasury page stating we've already spent 3.5T this year (fiscal year starts in October, so only half that time was under Trump).

[–] frostysauce@lemmy.world 5 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

See influencers like Ben Shapiro whom I just saw fantasising about his sister btw

Yeah, that was fake.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 2 points 6 hours ago

Yeah, I just saw that too. Hard to see these days with the idiocies that people like him post

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[–] Whirlybird@aussie.zone 8 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

No matter what you think of Wikipedia, if the heritage foundation have actually threatened to dox editors then that’s despicable.

[–] wuzzlewoggle@feddit.org 8 points 19 hours ago (5 children)

"No matter what you think of Wikipedia" sounds like Wikipedia is extremely controversial. I've never met a person who has anything against Wikipedia. How insane and out of touch with reality do you have to be to have something against Wikipedia?

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 11 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

The only people I've seen that dislike it are people who want to hide things (like Holocaust deniers) or people that have some weird beef with people that run it or edit it.

[–] flicker@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 hour ago

I've also seen people who dislike it, but only when it doesn't agree with them.

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[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 57 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Anyone got a list of the heritage foundation leaders and big players?

It's only fair

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 16 hours ago

Does Heritage dox its own people too?

[–] TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 88 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (13 children)

I'll note too that even absent Heritage Foundation threats, this can be useful to spur development of the project (i.e. for people who don't want a permanent account but don't feel comfortable having their IP permanently, publicly attached to edits). Probably the reason it hasn't been done in the past is it's almost certainly going to make it easier for bad actors to fly under the radar. Before, you either had to show your IP address (which can reveal your location and will usually uniquely identify who edited something for at least a little bit; you also can't use a VPN without special permission) or you had to register a single account (where if you created multiple, a sockpuppet investigation would often find out).

So there's an inherent trade-off, but I think right-wing threats of stochastic terrorism really tipped the scales.

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 16 hours ago

TL;DR: Wikipedia has been doxing its own editors since inception.

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