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[–] inbeesee@lemmy.world 28 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Friend is jealous of dogboy

[–] BigDiction@lemmy.world 4 points 12 hours ago

You know if the dude’s friends pick up on this they’ll start calling him dog boy.

[–] Lightor@lemmy.world 8 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (3 children)

This is just poorly thought out. You offer dessert and to pay, then classify it as food motivation. I mean it could be that he's happy you're paying, or happy you want to be out longer. If anything, he just ate, so food motivation would be at its lowest.

You're taking an animal that isn't as complex as humans or even has a concept of society, and trying to apply that to a person in a relationship. I think the thought is there, but the conclusions are a bit flawed.

[–] Redfox8@mander.xyz 5 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

We're only more complex in that we have language systems so can assess situations in a more detailed way. The majority of the time we have pretty much the same instincts and responses to stimuli to many other animals because, in short, it takes less energy/effort. Being able to conceive society, something canines can do, doesn't stop other natural instincts. There is a level of simplification, yes, but this is a social media post, not a scientific study so it won’t explain every minute detail!

[–] Lightor@lemmy.world 2 points 10 hours ago

We’re only more complex in that we have language systems so can assess situations in a more detailed way.

In part yes. But we also have a society. We have concepts of social norms that we created and evolved. We have expectations developed through a lifetime of education and media. A human from 50 years ago would feel lost in today's world, let alone a dog. We may be driven by some same basics, but we are more complex.

My point is that we can't talk to dogs like we can to humans. So we learn signs and try to interpret them as best we can. But interpretations are just that - interpretations. They can be wrong. A better method would be to talk and discuss the issue, removing the need for any guesswork.

[–] petrol_sniff_king@lemmy.blahaj.zone -1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

I mean it could be that he's happy you're paying, or happy you want to be out longer.

Oh, have you seen video of their lunch or something? You should post it, we can figure this out right now.

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[–] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 22 points 15 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Comment105@lemm.ee 5 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

I'm gonna run away from home and start barking at people.

Maybe I'll get lucky, either way I'll be taken care of.

[–] Soup@lemmy.world 75 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

We’re all animals, whether or not we want to believe that is simply a fact. And on top of that we are stressed the fuck out which pushes people, to vary degrees, back towards monkey brain. I consider myself pretty self-aware and therapy has proven that but oh man did my last job do a lot to leave me defensive and short with even the people I care about.

There’s that phrase “you can’t logic someone out of an argument they didn’t logic themselves into” that very well encapsulates the idea that trying to force some higher intelligence, some emotionless, robotic reasoning onto people does very little to actually help(though it should help more than it does and I’m disappointed in people running on pure, angry emotion all the same).

We need to stop acting like we aren’t the way that we are, it just hurts us. I’m not saying we need to excuse bad behaviour because, unlike wild animals, we have a great capacity to know better and adjust, but we do need to be more ok with the reality of ourselves.

[–] Drewmeister@lemmy.world 8 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

To add to this, you can do this to yourself as well. Reward yourself for the right behavior, tell yourself your did a good job, etc. It's (I'm guessing) harder than extrinsic motivation, but it still works. Take advantage of having a stupid lizard brain under all the stuff that makes us human.

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[–] 1995ToyotaCorolla@lemmy.world 48 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

IDK as a guy this doesn't seem weird at all. If anything, it sounds like she likes him and is willing to put in work to make him feel more comfortable and make the relationship successful. She doesn't really use any dehumanizing language and the way she connects the dots between what she notices in dogs and her date seems very empathetic. If anything, the guy's lucky to have found someone with so much emotional intelligence and hopefully she's getting out what she's putting in

[–] Carrolade@lemmy.world 27 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Gotta say, this smells a little like a top tier troll post. That out of the way, I also would like someone to carry around peanut M&Ms for me.

[–] YtA4QCam2A9j7EfTgHrH@infosec.pub 6 points 16 hours ago

Top tier reward

[–] fibojoly@sh.itjust.works 21 points 17 hours ago

The lady has training with animals and is applying what she learnt to make a guy at ease with her... I'd say the friend is the asshole here. You do the best you can with what you got.

[–] TabbsTheBat@pawb.social 34 points 18 hours ago

I lucked out, I have someone to train me with snacks too uwu

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 11 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

Someone wouldn't like watching House M.D. if this is making them feel immoral.

House Trains His Protégé | House M.D..

(if you don't want to see the whole thing here's s timestamp for the more relevant portion)

That's just basic psychology more or less. These are just the thoughts you shouldn't say ouloud perhaps. You can often compare things because there's similarities, but the nature of the things being compared may make it offensive.

It's more like "training dogs has given me an understanding of basic psychology which came really handy in my relationships" than "I'm training my bf like a dog".

[–] iamnotafishuq@lemmy.zip 13 points 17 hours ago

Smart woman. She backed into learning how to short circuit the animal instinct (ego) of man. Shows how empathy and compassion work better, by going to the source of the issue, rather than being triggered and responding negatively oneself to the symptoms.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 11 points 17 hours ago

When logic doesn't work, appeal to the lizard brain ... often. We're kinda not that complex.

I totally respect this, but worry egoes (his) will get in the way during a lull in the snacks.

[–] squirrel@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

The NYT had an article from 2006 which described a very similar "training". It goes into greater detail. Here is an archived version without paywall: https://archive.ph/n4GPa

[–] ryedaft@sh.itjust.works 2 points 11 hours ago

The book is good as well

[–] PopcornPrincess@lemmy.world 7 points 18 hours ago

Isn’t this just reinforcement, like reinforcement vs punishment from behavioral psychology? It works.

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