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work in a software company from India

bought an ev 2 wheeler

the company provided statistics about the distance travelled, efficiency, range, all in different driving modes

felt happy to know all these

company discontinued sending all the statistics, stopped web login by saying all details would be available on the phone app

3 months got over, but no new features available on the phone app

try to snoop what's happening on their app

found the api key and url from the app log.

MF, they track 20+ parameters for each trip including the number of times the horn is pressed

why the horn count? What are they going to get by tracking it? 🤔

all the EVs are privacy nightmares.

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[–] Gullible@sh.itjust.works 31 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It’s not just EVs that do this. If your car asks you to download an app, you’re already nestled between their marketing department’s thighs.

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[–] Mkengine@feddit.de 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Would the sandbox mode in grapheneOS make a difference? I don't have it, I just read that the sandbox mode is used for Google Play Store, can you put anything in a sandbox?

[–] Jumuta@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago

probably not, because the data from your car is going to the company's servers anyway before it gets to your phone

[–] rikonium@discuss.tchncs.de 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Modern cars regardless of fuel here in North America are the same deal. GPS location, speed, throttle application, miles, metrics etc. all being sent to the mothership with privacy, authoritarian, insurance, etc. implications. Toyota has the option to send it to your insurance company. (but please do not do that)

There are many ways to work around it ranging from pulling fuses, wiring, opting-out, to getting an older car either without any cellular functionality or on a 3G network that’s been shut down.

Sucks that we have to consider this too.

[–] authed@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We need guides on how to disable wireless communications for each car model

[–] rikonium@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 year ago

Sadly you’ll have to search any model you’re interested in. And it’ll vary between model years as well. And perhaps most annoyingly you’ll need to deal with the “you have a phone just submit to more data collection lol” clowns.

Best option is probably the opt-out - I mention Toyota a lot but they do have a red sticker talking about how to opt-out.

[–] scottmeme@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My car just had all of its remote services discontinued because it was running on the 3g network. Kek

[–] ziby0405@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago

your car is far more valuable to the right groups of people now (privacy concious folks in general)

[–] authed@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

All cars track you .... Look at this article from 2014: https://www.businessinsider.com/ford-exec-gps-2014-1