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[–] cy_narrator@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 23 hours ago

Encryption is like a lock, it has keys. Its like saying "All of you should provide a print of all your keys used in your home to the police, else how would we know you are not hiding a body in there?"

[–] BigBenis@lemmy.world 18 points 2 days ago

Encryption should be no more a crime than locking your house or storing your valuables in a safe.

[–] FriendBesto@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Who is the removed who would that encryption is a crime?

[–] Sturgist@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago

A fairly large portion of governments globally

[–] adrian@50501.chat 75 points 3 days ago (2 children)

And backdoored encryption is just as bad as unencrypted, maybe worse, since it lulls you into a false sense of security.

[–] CalipherJones@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

"After Salt Typhoon's hacking campaign targeting US telecom networks came to light last fall, then FBI director Christopher Wray described the phone company breaches as China's “most significant cyber-espionage campaign in history.” The intrusions, which in some cases exploited the wiretap mechanisms built into telecoms for law enforcement use, prompted CISA and FBI officials to go so far as to recommend that Americans use end-to-end encrypted communication apps like Signal and WhatsApp to avoid leaving their texts and calls vulnerable to China's real-time spying."

https://www.wired.com/story/chinas-salt-typhoon-spies-are-still-hacking-telecoms-now-by-exploiting-cisco-routers/

[–] turmacar@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago

Mathematically worse.

[–] FartsWithAnAccent@fedia.io 98 points 3 days ago (3 children)

It's kind of integral to the function of enterprise?

[–] zerofatorial@lemm.ee 85 points 3 days ago (2 children)

The entire financial system literally relies on encryption

[–] FartsWithAnAccent@fedia.io 49 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Lots of really critical stuff needs encryption, it's absolutely insane to try and ban it.

[–] undefined@lemmy.hogru.ch 4 points 3 days ago

to try to* ban it

[–] JimVanDeventer@lemmy.world 20 points 3 days ago (1 children)

People lock their doors; everyone understands.

[–] FartsWithAnAccent@fedia.io 12 points 2 days ago

wHaT aRe ThEy HiDiNg!!??!1?

[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 18 points 3 days ago

In China, basically every enterprise uses a VPN to get uncensored internet when needed.

[–] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 73 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] anonApril2025@lemmy.zip 13 points 2 days ago

Too bad the paper proclamation that is the constitution means nothing today

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago

Encryption is not just not a crime, it's a republican virtue, those arguments usually used about guns, they are even better applicable to encryption. Encryption is actually a civil duty, because of herd immunity being damaged by people not using encryption. That public institutes' erosion we are seeing in the last decades - it's because the technological progress made the need for encryption to blow up, not accompanied with sufficient public perception. That erosion is a result of bad people having gotten orders of magnitude more information about everyone to plan their actions.

[–] primemagnus@lemmy.ca 28 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Encryption is only a crime if done by a poor or not the government. So long as it’s got the rich people backing it, it’s not even in the same league.

When will you people see that this world doesn’t have universal rules. It has rules for the poor. And those for the rich.

[–] altkey@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 2 days ago

There's a mass without roofs, a prison to fill

A country soul that reads post not bills

A strike, and a line of cops outside of the mill.

There is a right to obey, and the right to kill.

(c) Rage against the Machine

[–] Pirata@lemm.ee 4 points 2 days ago

They'll just make it a crime and pretend you were wrong all along. We're not playing by moral rules anymore.

[–] adespoton@lemmy.ca 15 points 3 days ago
[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 9 points 3 days ago

They’ll send you to the Gulag here even if you didn’t commit a crime.

[–] Opisek@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago

It's the Cypherpunk's Manifesto all over again.

[–] Greg@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 days ago

Encryption is not a crime *unless you’re doing it to someone else’s data to extort them for bitcoins

[–] jsomae@lemmy.ml -4 points 1 day ago

I believe in some jurisdictions it is in some circumstances a crime, yes.

[–] kandoh@reddthat.com 2 points 2 days ago

Legalize it

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