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The lead plaintiff in the case, Nyree Hinton, bought a used Model Y with less than 37,000 miles (59,546 km) on the odometer. Within six months, it had pushed past the 50,000-mile (80,467 km) mark, at which point the car's bumper-to-bumper warranty expired. (Like virtually all EVs, Tesla powertrains have a separate warranty that lasts much longer.)

For this six-month period, Hinton says his Model Y odometer gained 13,228 miles (21,288 km). By comparison, averages of his three previous vehicles showed that with the same commute, he was only driving 6,086 miles (9,794 km) per 6 months.

Edit: I just want to point out that I just learned that changing your tires to ones of a different diameter can also affect how your spedometer clocks. So yeah, this issue is full of nuance and plausible things as to why this could not be true.

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[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 58 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Good thing we have the CFPB to register and punish companies for shady practices like th...oh, nevermind.

[–] easily3667@lemmus.org 8 points 15 hours ago (1 children)
[–] lb_o@lemmy.world 2 points 12 hours ago

Or intentionally?

[–] xia@lemmy.sdf.org 33 points 16 hours ago
odometer += sensor * this_is_just_for_debugging_i_promise(odometer);
[–] Eddbopkins@lemmy.world 7 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Wow that's a scummy thing to do. Just like apple I will never buy a Tesla product.

[–] pelley@lemmy.world 8 points 8 hours ago

Apple’s odometers are fine.

[–] nomecks@lemmy.wtf 19 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

You can't change the tire size on a Model Y very much because of the weird suspension design.

[–] cmlael67@lemmy.world 20 points 16 hours ago

Plus, to double the mileage registered by using different size tires, you'd have to put a roughly 10" tire on a Model Y.

[–] Wimster@lemmy.wtf 74 points 22 hours ago

In the past, Tesla lawyers even initiated lawsuits against customers who dared to criticize the quality of their cars or services. Such cases are documented and therefore not fake news. Last week, moreover, DOGE dismantled the department responsible for safety control and approval of new cars entering the market. Tesla experienced too many problems with this department in the past and now, through DOGE, took the opportunity to simply dismantle it. Moral of the story... buy a Tesla, a “safe” decision.

[–] Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de 14 points 17 hours ago

Well I'm curious to find out what discovery will show.

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 25 points 21 hours ago (4 children)

A odometer is a smell sensor, no?

[–] jaemo@sh.itjust.works 41 points 19 hours ago

They don't install those in new cars, you need one made in the ol'factory.

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 15 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (1 children)

How silly, it's obvious that would be an odormeter. An odometer is about something else entirely.

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 4 points 16 hours ago
[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 11 points 21 hours ago (1 children)
[–] zqps@sh.itjust.works 9 points 20 hours ago

Let's use the Smelloscope!

[–] Mac@mander.xyz 60 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Changing your tire sizing only changes the speedo and odo a few percent. You can usually just ignore it unless you're making drastic changes.

[–] Decq@lemmy.world 16 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (1 children)

Yeah aeems a pretty useless edit for an obvious fact. Especially as in this case you would need tires half the circumference of the original to make sense.. Gotta be some tiny tires..

Edit, had it the wrong way around

[–] TonyTonyChopper@mander.xyz 11 points 18 hours ago

Hey Siri how do I convert from inches to circumstance

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[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 43 points 1 day ago (2 children)

That's 70 miles a day, for anyone who doesn't want to do the math. I don't know where Hinton lives, but that's almost two laps around all of the highways surrounding the city I live in. That's 2 hours of driving on surface roads, not including stop lights and stop signs.

I wonder how much money Tesla has saved by breaking the law this way?

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 7 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

112 km a day, not a bad commute by Toronto standards - it’s one way for the Barrie to Toronto drivers

[–] Telodzrum@lemmy.world 3 points 16 hours ago

Sure, but it’s an additional 70 miles. Not something that would go unnoticed.

[–] AntY@lemmy.world 6 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

Or about 11 swedish miles per day.

[–] smeenz@lemmy.nz 0 points 9 hours ago

What's that in Ikea meatballs?

[–] vandsjov@feddit.dk 2 points 16 hours ago (1 children)
[–] AntY@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago

The unity mile, of course. It’s 10,688.54 m.

[–] Fades@lemmy.world 46 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Add this to the pile of the rest of the illegal things billionaire Musk does simply because he can

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[–] Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 147 points 1 day ago (6 children)

The speedometer is also predictive.

[–] InverseParallax@lemmy.world 3 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

From Berlin to Warsaw in one tank.

[–] Klear@sh.itjust.works 6 points 21 hours ago

Is it accurate though? Your mileage may vary.

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[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 32 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Should be super easy to prove too... Take an assortment of Teslas to a 1 mile stretch of road, drive it up and down 20 times, measure the mileage before and after.

[–] orcrist@lemm.ee 33 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Right, but Tesla has had time to push new code to their cars. So we could get a negative result now and still have past shadiness.

[–] twice_hatch@midwest.social 18 points 1 day ago

If the courts cared for the rights of people they would subpoena code routinely

We can't be ruled by black boxes that serve people who hate us. It has to end

[–] ByteJunk@lemmy.world 3 points 18 hours ago

There's got to be a git repository out there that has a smoking gun in its history...

[–] Geodad@lemm.ee 129 points 1 day ago

"Tesla commits fraud to void warranties."

There FTFY.

[–] mannycalavera@feddit.uk 278 points 1 day ago (33 children)

It's far more likely that the odometer in Teslas are just poor quality crap like the rest of the car.

[–] Modern_medicine_isnt@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago

Even more likely there is a bug ticket in thier system that says some part is malfunctioning causing the odometer to count too fast. And that ticket has been depriortized by product management repeatedly as fixing it generates no increase in revenue.

[–] orcrist@lemm.ee 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)

No, it isn't. Tesla's past behavior shows that they would definitely try to do this, because they would make a lot of money. And if the odometers were "randomly" poor quality, why would we only see reports of mileage being mistakenly high? Where are the mistaken low reports? Haven't seen any of those.

[–] Robust_Mirror@aussie.zone 3 points 19 hours ago

Would most people notice that? Would they say something if they did? If this particular warranty is mileage based, I'd keep my mouth shut if mine was abnormally low. It's not like it's something that affects the functioning of the car, and has other potential advantages like higher resale value.

And even if you said something, who is going to report on it? This is news because it's gone to court. You're not going to try to take them to court for it being low. At best you'll just try to get it fixed.

I'm not saying this isn't something they would do, I just don't necessarily think we'd definitely see reports of it being low, even if it was happening.

If they were actually doing this, and actually being smart about it though, they'd have it go over at a rate of say, 30% of cars, and under at a rate of like 10% of cars so they'd still come out on top but actually have it seem to be randomly faulty.

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