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respect to individual psycholgists who work hard to fix the bigotry

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[–] HappyFrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone 66 points 4 days ago

I don't really like vague-posting... If something's wrong, please say it or link to a place talking about it.

[–] TotallynotJessica@lemmy.blahaj.zone 41 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Psychology still has serious issues, especially with the way it pathologizes human difference, but it's done a better job owning up to it's bigotry than most other fields (in part because it works so directly with people that they struggle hide behind scientific detachment)

[–] Unknown_0671@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 3 days ago (1 children)

i get your point. I think its possible i overestimated psychology's bigotry for the same reason as it may be having to owe up the most. bigotted direct relations with the field as a patient, seeing the bigotry in research and funding issues via close people (well atleast here in pakistan). but i do lack that knowledge and experience with other science fields so this could be biased take

[–] TotallynotJessica@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

what makes me hopeful is that those conversations aren't even seen as necessary in other fields, while psych is staffed by a generation of people who realize just how important it is to respect the people your working with

that is a very good point yes

[–] witty_username@feddit.nl 30 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Freud was a product of his time and environs. It is worth noting that his time and environs were misogynistic, racist, unscientific, elitist and cocaine addicted

[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 15 points 4 days ago

It's also pretty relevant that psychology has done a lot of improving after his death, which was 86 years ago.

[–] Unknown_0671@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 4 days ago (1 children)

yea no, even in the late 1800s there were movements and knowledge that racism, misogyny, etc are bad. i dont buy the excuse that people back then were just a product of their time. i think thats a retro-spective way of looking at the past, seeing how things are 'better' today must mean they sucked back then and everyone accepted it as is. Freud had access to the information that bigotry is wrong, he did it anyways. that needs to be acknowledged

[–] witty_username@feddit.nl 13 points 4 days ago

Oh I agree. I was not being apologetic. I was trying to show in a funny way how rotten Freud and his work are

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 4 days ago

Some would say his environs had a rather jaw dropping effect on the man.

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 23 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)
[–] kboy101222@sh.itjust.works 12 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Don't forget sexism! Ask the nearest woman how many times she's been told her pains were fake or period related.

My sister got told her fucking knee pain was period related. Fucking knee pain. And the doctor was a woman

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago

Incredible.🙄 That’s true. People forget that all research is compounded, and white men ran the show for centuries.

[–] Unknown_0671@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

oh yea im aware. i've just had a lot of people just dismiss psychology and sociology bc "its a soft science" and thats just bs elitism to me. medicine is to me more bigotted than psychology as an institution, but i havent met anyone calling it a soft science so not mentioned here

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

True scientists understand it’s never proof, always evidence. Mathematics has proofs. Science has theories and laws that are subject to change with new evidence. Technically, all science would be ‘soft’ by the standard of those critics.

[–] juliiie@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I know some hard sciences and some soft sciences if you know what I am trying to say

[–] Cassa@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 3 days ago

They still reference Rosseau, the idiotic theories that he couldn't even get to work