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[–] reddig33@lemmy.world 126 points 1 week ago (2 children)

There’s nothing stopping Dorsey from releasing all of his IP under a public license. Same with Elon who jumped on this bandwagon.

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[–] j4k3@lemmy.world 33 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] sik0fewl@lemmy.ca 18 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Yes, now that rich people want to break the law to create AI we should just make it legal for them.

[–] pennomi@lemmy.world 43 points 1 week ago

Yes. Because individuals stand to gain far, FAR more than corporations if IP law disappeared.

[–] j4k3@lemmy.world 32 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

No, this has enormous implications to break the monopolies of many companies and supply chains. Companies like Broadcom and Qualcomm only exist because of their anticompetitive IP nonsense. This is everything anyone could ever dream of for Right to Repair. It stops Nintendo's nonsense. It kills Shimano's anti competitive bicycle monopoly.

Every frivolous nonsense thing has been patented. Patents are not at all what they were intended to be. They are primary weapons of the super rich to prevent anyone from entering and competing in the market. Patents are given for the most vague nonsense so that any competitive product can be drug through years of legal nonsense just to exist. It is not about infringement of novel ideas. It is about creating an enormous cost barrier to protect profiteering from stagnation by milking every possible penny from the cheapest outdated junk.

IP is also used for things like criminal professors creating exorbitantly priced textbook scams to extort students.

All of that goes away if IP is ditched. The idea that some author has a right to profit from something for life is nonsense; the same with art. No one makes a fortune by copying others unless they are simply better artists. Your skills are your protection and those that lack the skills have no right to use their wealth to suppress others. The premise of IP is largely based on an era when access to publishing and production was extremely limited and required large investments. That is not the case any more; that is not the world we live in. Now those IP tools are used for exactly the opposite of their original purpose and suppressing art and innovation.

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[–] drspod@lemmy.ml 18 points 1 week ago (1 children)
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[–] fluffykittycat@slrpnk.net 16 points 1 week ago

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[–] TootSweet@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I hate agreeing with a CEO.

[–] Artyom@lemm.ee 17 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Don't worry, he's probably being disingenuous and likely has ulterior motives.

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[–] rekabis@lemmy.ca 15 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Businesses were innovative long before patents and copyright became a thing. In fact, evidence shows that society was more innovative without patents and copyright than with.

For your reading pleasure:

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[–] GregorGizeh@lemmy.zip 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

And that is bad why...?

Intellectual property, the sheer concept that an idea, or color, or shape can be owned at all is absurd if you really think about it. There is certainly room for a fair compromise of appropriate and proportional compensation for the actual inventors or creators of something, but our current system of intellectual property and patents is silly and hostile to human nature.

[–] andMoonsValue@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Current IP law may be too over reaching but I do like the idea that if an artist writes a song, or paints a picture others can't just make copies and sell it. Similarly, if someone makes some invention its nice that there is an incentive to publish the technology openly for everyone to understand how it works, and in return they get to profit from their discovery for a set number of years.

Some design patents and patent tolls are obviously bad, but I think for the most part its a decent system. What compromise would you propose?

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[–] doodledup@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

Jesus christ. I'd lose my job immediately.

[–] jared@mander.xyz 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Lets just delete the greedy!

[–] doodledup@lemmy.world -2 points 1 week ago (2 children)

This is not about being greedy. This is about incentives. IP enables billions of jobs.

[–] SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

And makes research investment-worthy.

[–] doodledup@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago (12 children)

Exactly. Without IP, scientists and researchers could only make a living through government funding. And that means governments also fully control the research and development. A free market needs IP. It's fundamental.

[–] porous_grey_matter@lemmy.ml 0 points 6 days ago (4 children)

This is already the only way scientists make a living

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[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip -3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

No

This is literally just so they can scoop up everything for AI. You don't get to just do whatever you please with someones work.

Also doesn't the GPL use IP law for enforcement of copy left?

[–] vonbaronhans@midwest.social 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'm not saying I'm against getting rid of IP law, writ large, but I gotta agree the only reason a billionaire would say so right now is to remove legal barriers to training data for their AI models.

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