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[–] RedFrank24@lemmy.world 22 points 2 days ago (4 children)

I wouldn't say Lemmy is much better though... It's just Reddit but not on Reddit.

[–] VitoRobles@lemmy.today 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Lemmy feels a lot more like old reddit.

New Reddit feels artificial. The written content posts LOOK like they're from AI. Much of the subreddits are now curated. You can't say Luigi.

Here, it's a bit of a wild west. And that's okay.

There isn't much written content posts. But the comments? I'm loving it. It comes off genuine. Human. Real. Even the shitty ones that make me want to downvote but damn do I somewhat see their perspective.

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[–] blind3rdeye@lemm.ee 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It has a similar problem, but a better version of it.

From my point of view, Lemmy creates its bubble just by being friendly to one subset of views and hostile to another; and so people with some subsets of views don't feel welcome - and they leave. This creates a kind of bubble effect; but I'm ok with that - because frankly there are some views that I really don't want to see here anyway. Having diversity of views is good, but establishing social norms about what is acceptable or unacceptable isn't necessarily a bad thing either.

On the other hand Reddit (in addition to the above effect) also has a big dose of top-down enforcement. Effectively it has a small hidden group of people who can control what everyone else is allowed to say. They can ban certain words and sentiments; and use techniques like shadowbanning or just algorithmic demoting to reduce the influence of stuff they don't like. So they get a bubble as well, but the bubble can be guided and influenced by the people who control the platform. For my point of view, that makes it worse.

[–] rikudou@lemmings.world 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

Lemmy.ml bans you for shit and giggles, basically if you don't agree that murderous dictators are the future, you will very likely be banned. If you're new to Lemmy and happen to stumble upon .ml first (and are not a red fascist), you'll get the same treatment.

Lemmy.ml is still a big instance, so chances of this happening are pretty high.

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[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Lemmy users are not better... but Lemmy is.

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[–] Cocopanda@futurology.today 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I haven’t been banned for voicing disdain about Israel here. Just a few deleted comments. But no bans.

[–] Orangutanion@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

since we're allegedly allowed to talk about this here, what was your stance on the 2024 election (if you're american)? I'm gonna be honest, I still don't understand how people came to the conclusion that Trump would have been better for helping Gazans.

[–] Cocopanda@futurology.today 2 points 1 day ago

I’ll be honest. I saw Trump winning coming. Because a lot of people I know were repeating lies they heard from internet content. I could t put up a fight because it was just so dumb. People lost jobs. People were financially stressed. It just was a lot to fight. So much of social media has been weaponized. I was banned from Facebook before the election because I was having it out with Bot accounts calling for civil wars and violence. So Facebook does nothing about the terrorism content but blocked me for calling them out. It’s been a godsend not being on Facebook anymore.

[–] Aux@feddit.uk 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's not like Lemmy is different in any way, lol.

[–] smokingpistol@lemm.ee 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah I came across lemmy Because I was told that this place believes in free speech even if it’s something you don’t agree with. That is not true though because I’ve had mods delete my comments lol.

[–] Aux@feddit.uk 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] smokingpistol@lemm.ee 3 points 9 hours ago

Dude this is just as bad as Reddit, The same Donald Trump being a Nazi rhetoric, I got my comment deleted that says “Hamas sucks” While somebody else’s comment says they are heroes. This website is trash and quite frankly I think Reddit might be a little better

[–] CaptPretentious@lemmy.world 17 points 2 days ago (1 children)

That's literally all of the Internet, not just Reddit. Everyone putting themselves in echo chambers and tuning everything else out. Modern Internet is just people wanting to be told they're right and be showered with worthless affirmations.

[–] Saleh@feddit.org 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] minnow@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago

Well, you're wrong. And this is the internet, and you're not allowed to be wrong, so...

[–] guywithoutaname@lemm.ee 21 points 2 days ago

I'm 14 and this is deep.

[–] Washedupcynic@lemm.ee 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I just got banned for commenting " [Removed by Reddit] " .

[–] smokingpistol@lemm.ee 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I got banned for saying “ I’ll probably get banned for saying this but if you’re a Nazi or a Nazi supporter you deserve to get punched in the face” in response of a lady that was going around Boston doing the heil Hitler salute

[–] Bloomcole@lemm.ee 0 points 6 hours ago

I just saw you replied to me in political memes, can't comment back tho.
Apparently saying "you might want to brush up on history" is uncivil.
Using the term Blue MAGA is trolling.
And then the mods used the Lemmy modlog as an excuse to ban me.
Jeez these libs.

[–] TwinTitans@lemmy.world 46 points 2 days ago (13 children)

I mean, it’s really no different on here. Giant echo chambers.

[–] Klear@lemmy.world 24 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

We're a smaller chamber but a lot more echo.

[–] InnerScientist@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago (1 children)

^We're^ ^a^ ^smaller^ ^chamber^ ^but^ ^a^ ^lot^ ^more^ ^echo.^

[–] TronBronson@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

echo.....echo

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[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago

Powerful reddit energy in this post

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 48 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Meanwhile lemmy appears to self select Linux users

[–] eleitl@lemm.ee 17 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Early adopters and technical users are more likely to be free/libre users.

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[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Banning is just an administrative action. The sentiment behind it is just as present on lemmy and everywhere else. Social forums tend to turn into echo chambers as ordinary users, who don't have ban power but wish they did, use downvotes to suppress whatever they don't agree with.

[–] MoreFPSmorebetter@lemmy.zip 50 points 3 days ago (47 children)

In my limited experience with Lemmy I would say the problem here is worse, but different due to the whole instance and decentralized thing.

I definitely don't think Lemmy has much ground to stand on in terms of looking down on reddit for the echo chamber they created.

[–] menemen@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Not sure if you are correct. On lemmy we have several different echo chambers with many interconnections. Best seen in the .world .lm flame wars. This might be a rather unique situation tbh and quite interesting for a sociological study, I guess.

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[–] n3cr0@lemmy.world 80 points 3 days ago (30 children)

True, but it also reminds us what happens when someone on Lemmy gets downvoted, reported and banned for having their own valud standpoint, which is not accepted by the majority of us.

We should keep in mind that we are prone to making the same mistake.

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[–] wanderwisley@lemm.ee 7 points 2 days ago

Reddit is just edgy self aware facebook.

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