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Please take this discussion to this post: https://lemmy.ml/post/28376589

Main contentSelfhosting is always a dilemma in terms of security for a lot of reasons. Nevertheless, I have one simple goal: selfhost a Jellyfin instance in the most secure way possible. I don't plan to access it anywhere but home.

TL;DR

I want the highest degree of security possible, but my hard limits are:

  • No custom DNS
  • Always-on VPN
  • No self-signed certificates (unless there is no risk of MITM)
  • No external server

Full explanation

I want to be able to access it from multiple devices, so it can't be a local-only instance.

I have a Raspberry Pi 5 that I want to host it on. That means I will not be hosting it on an external server, and I will only be able to run something light like securecore rather than something heavy like Qubes OS. Eventually I would like to use GrapheneOS to host it, once Android's virtual machine management app becomes more stable.

It's still crazy to me that 2TB microSDXC cards are a real thing.

I would like to avoid subscription costs such as the cost of buying a domain or the cost of paying for a VPN, however I prioritize security over cost. It is truly annoying that Jellyfin clients seldom support self-signed certificates, meaning the only way to get proper E2EE is by buying a domain and using a certificate authority. I wouldn't want to use a self-signed certificate anyways, due to the risk of MITM attacks. I am a penetration tester, so I have tested attacks by injecting malicious certificates before. It is possible to add self-signed certificates as trusted certificates for each system, but I haven't been able to get that to work since it seems clients don't trust them anyways.

Buying a domain also runs many privacy risks, since it's difficult to buy domains without handing over personal information. I do not want to change my DNS, since that risks browser fingerprinting if it differs from the VPN provider. I always use a VPN (currently ProtonVPN) for my devices.

If I pay for ProtonVPN (or other providers) it is possible to allow LAN connections, which would help significantly, but the issue of self-signed certificates still lingers.

With that said, it seems my options are very limited.

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Your options are only as limited as your imagination and complexity of your requirements.

If you're only using it on your network, just use HTTP with mdns (or have static routes from your router or something, but you said you don't want that) so you don't have to remember IP addresses. If you want TLS, you can borrow someone else's domain with a service like FreeDNS.afraid.org (5 free subdomains). Or if you control the devices completely, you can make a root CA and add that to each device's trusted CA list, and then sign your own certs and eliminate MITM attacks.

You have options, and most are overkill. The simplest, secure solution is HTTP on your local network or over a VPN you trust (if you have a publicly accessible IP, just host your own WireGuard server on/via your router).

[–] Mouette@jlai.lu 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

How i do it:

  • Wireguard for VPN endpoint on the pi and device that I have root on, secure, fast to setup and doesn't add a lot of overhead

  • For access outside of VPN:

You might have to pay for a domain name if you dont have a static IP, which is relatively cheap.

You can manually allow trusted IP to access the service in your firewall which nullify surface of attack if done perfectly but is really an hassle to setup and maintain. I'm looking to setup Keycloack for a strong pre-auth that I can share between services and that is also lightweight (Authentik is not lightweight, Authelia seems to be i'd like to try it aswell) This coupled with firewall rules and/or fail2ban like service should be more than enough for a private server I think.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 week ago

I'm not taking this to lemmyml

[–] lefixxx@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

You can also add a second network interface to the computer that needs to access the jellyfin server over LAN.

[–] dbbljack@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago

So you want a self hosted jellyfin instance that you only plan to access at home, as secure and simply as possible?

Buy an HDMI splitter.

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