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[–] adam_y@lemmy.world 13 points 12 hours ago (3 children)

Spent this morning reading a thread where someone was following chatGPT instructions to install "Linux" and couldn't understand why it was failing.

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[–] Xerxos@lemmy.ml 15 points 14 hours ago (11 children)

I don't get how so many people carry their computer illiteracy as a badge of honor.

Chatgpt is useful.

Is it as useful as Tech Evangelists praise it to be? No. Not yet - and perhaps never will be.

But I sure do love to let it write my mails to people who I don't care for, but who I don't want to anger by sending my default 3 word replies.

It's a tool to save time. Use it or pay with your time if you willfully ignore it.

[–] essell@lemmy.world 7 points 13 hours ago (5 children)

As an older techy I'm with you on this, having seen this ridiculous fight so many times.

Whenever a new tech comes out that gets big attention you have the Tech Companies saying everyone has to over it in Overhype.

And you have the proud luddites who talk like everyone else is dumb and they're the only ones capable of seeing the downsides of tech

"Buy an iPhone, it'll Change your life!"

"Why do I need to do anything except phone people and the battery only lasts one day! It'll never catch on"

"Buy a Satnav, it'll get you anywhere!"

"That satnav drove a woman into a lake!"

"Our AI is smart enough to run the world!"

"This is just a way to steal my words like that guy who invented cameras to steal people's souls!"

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Tech was never meant to do your thinking for you. It's a tool. Learn how to use it or don't, but if you use tools right, 10,000 years of human history says that's helpful.

[–] CarbonatedPastaSauce@lemmy.world 7 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Not all tools are worthy of the way they are being used. Would you use a hammer that had a 15% chance of smashing you in the face when you swung it at a nail? That's the problem a lot of us see with LLMs.

[–] essell@lemmy.world 2 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

No, but I do use hammers despite the risks.

Because I'm aware of the risks and so I use hammers safely, despite the occasional bruised thumb.

[–] CarbonatedPastaSauce@lemmy.world 5 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

You missed my point. The hammers you're using aren't 'wrong', i.e. smacking you in the face 15% of the time.

Said another way, if other tools were as unreliable as ChatGPT, nobody would use them.

[–] essell@lemmy.world 4 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

You've missed my point.

ChatGPT can be wrong but it can't hurt you unless you assume it's always right

[–] CarbonatedPastaSauce@lemmy.world 5 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

And assuming it's always right is what the general public is doing.

[–] essell@lemmy.world 4 points 9 hours ago

Like the lady who drives into the lake because sat nav told her to.

[–] xor@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Hammers are unreliable.

You can hit your thumb if you use the tool wrong, and it can break, doing damage, if e.g. it is not stored properly. When you use a hammer, you accept these risks, and can choose to take steps to mitigate them by storing it properly, taking care when using it and checking it's not loose before using it.

In the same regard, if you use LLMs for what they're good at, and verify their outputs, they can be useful tools.

"LLMs pointless because I can write a shopping list myself" is like saying "hammers are pointless because I can just use this plank instead". Sure, you can do that, but there's other scenarios where a hammer would be kinda handy.

[–] CarbonatedPastaSauce@lemmy.world 4 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

if you use LLMs for what they’re good at, and verify their outputs

This is the part the general public is not prepared for, and why the whole house of cards falls apart.

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[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 1 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Sounds like it's a tool for wasting time.

[–] gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

I used the image generation of a jail broken model locally to drum up an AI mock-up of work I then paid a professional to do

This was 10000x smoother than the last time I tried this, where I irritated the artist with how much they failed to understand what I meant. The AI didn't care, I was able to get something decently close to what I had in my head, and a professional took that and made something great with it

Is that a better example?

[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 6 points 10 hours ago

Yes. AI is great at creating mediocre slop to pour onto a giant mountain of mediocre slop that already exists online. In fact, that's an LLM's greatest power: Producing stuff that looks like other stuff.

This is the perfect usecase for it. Mockups, sketches, filler. Low-quality, low-effort stuff used only as an input for more work.

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[–] hperrin@lemmy.ca 14 points 14 hours ago

I don’t know how to feel about this. I need to ask ChatGPT.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 9 points 13 hours ago

Used it once to ask it silly questions to see what the fuss is all about, never used it again and hopefully never will.

[–] Lembot_0001@lemm.ee 7 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

You can always ask ChatGPT how to proceed with such trivial tasks. It is too dumb to write code but it can suggest how to get access to ChatGPT.

[–] whyNotSquirrel@sh.itjust.works 3 points 13 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Lembot_0001@lemm.ee 2 points 13 hours ago (1 children)
[–] GooberEar@lemmy.wtf 1 points 10 hours ago
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