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If I ignore/block them, it allows them to continue unchallenged. I hate getting into it with them, since they are a baseline idiot.

I guess that's it. I saw a person with a 6 month account spouting garbage, was gonna block but thought perhaps that wasn't morally responsible. Wondering what the options were.

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[–] FarraigePlaisteach@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I tend to not reply because that will just draw more attention to them. I will post a separate top level comment rebutting their statements without referring to them.

[–] MrsDoyle@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 days ago

That's a good strategy, thanks.

[–] bitofarambler@crazypeople.online 123 points 4 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

i find this very satisfying: gently disagreeing with them via a short single positive message like "gay people do deserve respect", then letting them throw a very lengthy, time-invested tantrum before gently and completely disagreeing with their comment with another short sentence, over and over until they get tired.

i find that both very funny and I'm putting out positive messages that negate their bigotry without too much time or effort.

that's just if you have the time and inclination to engage, you aren't morally obligated to subject yourself to abusive behavior.

if it's real bad, they're probably violating a rule, and reporting them will get them banned

[–] Melatonin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 25 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] Seleni@lemmy.world 14 points 3 days ago

I’m going to post this idea by agent_nycto, because it’s another good way to deal with them, especially if you run into them IRL:

I don't think you should be quiet, it makes them feel like everyone is agreeing with them and makes everyone miserable. Time to introduce you to my favorite game to play with conservatives, Politics Judo!

So you hear them rant about a thing. Some dumbass talking point. Let's use gun control. It's pretty easy to know in advance what the talking points are since they never shut up and parrot the same problem and solution over and over. "Shouldn't take guns, it's a mental problem not a gun problem".

Things are basically boiled down to a problem and a solution. A lot of people try to convince people that the problem isn't what people think it is, and that's hard to do. Even if they are just misinformed, it feels like trying to dismiss their fears.

So what you do is you agree with the problem, then use lefty talking points as the solution.

"Oh yeah, gun violence is pretty bad! And I love the Constitution, we shouldn't mess with that!" (Use small words and also throw in some patriotism, makes them feel like you're on their side. You want to sound like a right wing media con artist) "so instead of taking guns away, we should instead start having more, free, mental health care in this country. Since it's a mental health problem and these people are crazy, that is the solution that makes the most sense!" (Don't try to get them to agree to your solution, just state it as the obvious one)

It becomes weaponized cognitive dissonance. Their brains fry because you said the things you should to agree with them, flagged yourself as an ally, but then said the thing they were told is the bad and shouldn't want.

If they try to argue with your solution, rinse and repeat to a different talking point. "Oh yeah it might cost more, and we shouldn't have to pay more for it, so we should get the rich people who are screwing average hard working Americans over by not paying taxes to do that. We should shut down tax loopholes and increase funding to the IRS so they can go after them instead of the little guy"

Always sound like you're agreeing with them, but giving solutions that they disagree with that seem to be off topic but are related.

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[–] HungryJerboa@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Doxx them.

What, that isn't allowed? Well neither is white supremacist hate speech. Fuck that trash.

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Ignore them, then vote accordingly. Nothing you or I say will have any effect

[–] r0ertel@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

There's a lot of other good suggestions here, so I'll just ask, what outcome are you hoping to achieve?

[–] Melatonin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] r0ertel@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

If that's the case, I'd recommend treating them like spam: reply and you'll get a lot more.

Mostly, it's a huge emotional and time investment if you want to change someone's behavior and from what I gather, it's a one on one type of thing and really hard. If you want to stop them from interacting negatively with others, your best action would be to report them.

If you're upset and want to vent, then engaging will be fun for a while, but mostly futile in terms of behaviour adjustments.

[–] lapping6596@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

If I respond, it's mostly for the 'audience'. I used to argue on r/libertarian or r/conservative, not to change the other person's mind, but to add a different opinion to the thread. I doubt I ever convinced the other person of anything, but hope I got other people to think a bit more about some of the policies being advocated for.

[–] Randomgal@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago

This makes it look like the post is popular and draws more attention. Depending on the platform, it signals the algorithm to show it to more people.

Doing this is engaging exactly the way they expect you to engage, it helps no one.

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 12 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Report their comments, most instances will ban them unless they comment on a Nazi instance in which case good riddance.

[–] Irelephant@lemm.ee 9 points 3 days ago

If its a nazi instance, ask your admin to defederate.

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 35 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Did you report this person? Racists are usually quickly dispensed with, because if they’re allowed to continue unchallenged then this will become a Nazi bar.

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[–] RymrgandsDaughter@lemmy.world 11 points 3 days ago

Call them a dumbass bitch idiot

[–] TwoBeeSan@lemmy.world 32 points 4 days ago (1 children)

You're not gonna change their mind.

You'd be better spending your time breaking a brick wall with your skull.

Fuck em. Block em.

[–] decended_being@midwest.social 22 points 4 days ago (6 children)

Sometimes, it's not about changing their mind, but influencing the many others who are less certain in their beliefs who are just reading along.

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[–] Vanth@reddthat.com 28 points 4 days ago (3 children)

I'm here for entertainment, as I assume most people are. If seeing that sort of rhetoric is a negative to you, block it. Marie Kondo your online life and yeet anything out the window that doesn't spark joy. Put your anti-MAGA efforts towards improving your IRL community where you don't have to futilely battle pseudonymous trolls.

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[–] barneypiccolo@lemm.ee 5 points 3 days ago

Generally, my tactic is to not engage directly, but address the rest of the audience, essentially pointing at the subject and mocking him ("Can you believe this MAGA Traitor?..."). When he tries to respond, again ignore him, and just point and laugh.

They get really frustrated being made fun of, without having the satisfaction of creating liberal outrage.

Don't feed the trolls. If you find a bigot willing to have a good faith debate, maybe, but there is no reasoning with cult members. They have to want to change.

[–] Mallspice@lemm.ee 10 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

Bully them. The only way to deal with a bully is to show your strength.

You know how a lot of libs like to police language? That’s weak and only pisses off bullies. Instead, use their language against them. For example, a decent liberal would never do this but you can do more emotional damage to a maga and make a point they would understand by calling them a ‘regarded fage’ (paraphrasing because that is a ban worthy insult in many places online) over and over again than you ever could by using logic against them.

You might not like it, but nut shots and low blows work better.

[–] Mallspice@lemm.ee 1 points 1 day ago

You sound pampered and pompous to me.

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[–] andrewta@lemmy.world 13 points 3 days ago (68 children)

You’ve actually found right leaning people on Lemmie? I thought they were either shoved out, bullied out or pushed out or just given up and left and went somewhere else.

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