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[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

For some reason the dumbass "they want a new world order" people completely don't give a shit when Trump says almost exactly that verbatim and causes exactly that by being his tariff man self.

Fuck tariff man and everyone that voted for him.

[–] Vikthor@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

Fuck also everybody who could, but didn't vote against him.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 19 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Reported as US News, which not World, but the tariffs have an impact on virtually every country on the planet (Russia excluded), so I'll allow it.

[–] huppakee@lemm.ee 5 points 13 hours ago

I read the oil prices plumeted along with the stocks and crypto currencies, so Russia is indirectly impacted as well. Does that make up for all the bullshit? No, but it makes my day a little bit better.

[–] hansolo@lemm.ee 41 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

That was the goal.

In Rubio's confirmation hearing, he literally said that the goal of the administration is to end global Post WWII stability.

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 1 points 2 hours ago

Buzzwords straight from Putin's mouth, these tariffs only help Putin in the end, weaken the US enough that cthey can't stop Russia

[–] stoy@lemmy.zip 2 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

What would be the point of ending the stability?

[–] ugjka@lemmy.world 8 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

To make the poor poorer by the super rich sucking up all assets from everyone who goes belly up

[–] stoy@lemmy.zip 5 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

They were already doing that, only in a slow and stable manner.

[–] P1nkman@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago

Now they're just accelerating their own demise. They will be tortured and killed, and they'll wonder why. It's like Elongated Muskrat is saying that he does not understand what people are mad at him. They have zero self reflections; and they'll deserve what's coming to them.

[–] Schortl@feddit.org 58 points 1 day ago (4 children)

There are difficult times ahead - but in the end it will make Europe more united and stronger!

[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 49 points 1 day ago

"Stronger" isn't automatically a good thing.

It's like the old joke; I work out three times a day; get to bed every night at 9 pm; read at least two good books a week; don't eat a lot of candy and treats. I'll be so happy when I get out of prison.

[–] tal@lemmy.today 19 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

It will most likely make Europe, along with the US and most of the world, poorer than would otherwise be the case.

[–] Prime_Minister_Keyes@lemm.ee 17 points 22 hours ago

Now, now. The rich, especially in the US, will become richer by a lot. And that's all that matters... for them.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 2 points 23 hours ago

Or more fascist, who knows?

[–] JudahBenHur@lemm.ee 0 points 21 hours ago

isn't that exactly what trimp is saying it'll be like for america

[–] OmegaLemmy@discuss.online 6 points 20 hours ago

Cost us all? Maybe the business owners and Americans. And probably only American businesses owners. USA isn't the entire world, if you can't export to America you'll export to Canada, France, Kenya, Indonesia, Japan.

[–] NatakuNox@lemmy.world 6 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

In all fairness, the last 80 years of economic order has been shit for 99% of the population. So I don't get too excited about experts that suggest going back to a less broken system as the answer. We need to rethink our whole economic systems outside of the current ideas.

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago

In all fairness, the last 80 years of economic order has been shit for 99% of the population.

Yes and no. Millions of people were uplifted from poverty because of globalisation. The technology and wealth we enjoy today is because of international trade. But on the one hand, those who lost their jobs from outsourcing were not duly provided with alternatives, and now they are electing demagogues who are promising them easy answers to complicated issues. And on geopolitics, big countries act with impunity, stepping on less powerful countries. This also added for demagogues to use the lack of international order to rally people into nativism.

[–] Aurenkin@sh.itjust.works 9 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

The world economic system includes many places that aren't the USA and many of them were doing pretty well. That to me would suggest that there's another problem to blame for the crappy situation people are dealing with in the US. I'm all for rethinking a system to help benefit more people but I really don't think that's what's happening here at all.

[–] ynthrepic@lemmy.world 3 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

What do you understand about the economic system? For example, how the money supply is created, and the ramifications of "interest" and "inflation". What you'll find if you do, is that the system is fundamentally broken if your goal is sustainability on this planet for any serious length of time.

Most of the current world order couldn't care less, clearly or we'd have done things about climate change that weren't just technical advancements buying us time if making any difference whatsoever.

Real austerity for the wealthy could pay for solving most of the world's issues, several times over. And we have the resources to do it globally. It shouldn't be a matter of "cost".

But it'll probably never happen, unfortunately.