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    [–] Pippipartner@discuss.tchncs.de 54 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

    Ah the Linux help desk where you get helpful directions like "You have a problem with your dual monitor setup in your naively installed Ubuntu setup? Have you considered installing a rust micro kernel from an abandoned GitHub repo? After cherry picking some patches from a mailinglist? Also boon plep Ubuntu looser."

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    [–] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 23 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

    Hey, get your Gentoo propaganda out of here.

    [–] Chee_Koala@lemmy.world 58 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    Why even use releases? Everyone can build everything for themselves. 'Normal Users' are just lazy, everyone wants to know how every piece of software is built for their system, it's not like they have other stuff to do.

    [–] randamumaki@lemmy.blahaj.zone 16 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

    I thought that was what Gentoo was doing, but they have far more binary packages nowadays than I thought they'd ever get.

    [–] msage@programming.dev 2 points 14 hours ago

    llvm, clang are packages I give 0 fucks about, but take a significant part of my updates. I never really got around to it, but I will try to make them binary downloads instead of building that shit. Like I understand gcc, but have 0 interest in llvm, and can't have firefox without it.. smh

    [–] crony@lemmy.cronyakatsuki.xyz 5 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

    Which you still need to specifically specify. By default everything still has to be compiled.

    [–] randamumaki@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 15 hours ago

    That's good then. :)

    [–] mlg@lemmy.world 79 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    Dependencies:

    Old ass library version from 2004

    apt/dnf/pacman: package not found

    library package was last available 15 years ago before it was dropped to move to the next legacy version

    App package was available right up until last year until it was dropped for development inactivity

    Absolutely no one has a compiled version of old ass library

    Attempting to compile old ass library results in 30 other old ass package dependencies

    How in the actual world was the maintainer compiling this up to last year

    [–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 56 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    It worked on their machine

    [–] conicalscientist@lemmy.world 11 points 18 hours ago

    They have old/orphaned dependencies on their machine. It's hanging on a by thread. They have no idea the packages have disappeared years ago. The house of cards is a bit flip away from collapsing.

    [–] djvinniev77@lemmy.ca 6 points 22 hours ago

    Hahah I say this all the time.

    [–] bruhduh@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago

    Why docker was created be like

    [–] JakobFel@retrolemmy.com 26 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

    I don't care for this mentality. I understand constant questions must get old for developers/contributors but the mentality that people should compile from the source is not conducive to growing FOSS. It is, however, potentially conducive to laziness from the devs. "Eh, why should I spend time releasing compiled builds? Let the plebs compile themselves."

    [–] ikidd@lemmy.world 5 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

    Devs don't usually package for specific distros unless it's a generic format like Appimage that can just be downloaded. Distro maintainers need to get it into the format their package manager uses and update the list to make it available.

    [–] JakobFel@retrolemmy.com 2 points 7 hours ago

    Yes, and that's fine: they can compile in their preferred format and if people want a different one, then the "package it yourself" argument makes sense.

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    [–] palordrolap@fedia.io 3 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

    Package version 0.01: Built with libraries abc version 2, def version 0.1 and ghi version 7.2.2

    Your system has requirements: abc version 2, def version 0.2 and ghi version 8.0.0

    Package version 0.02: Requires abc version 3, def version 0.2 and ghi version 8.0.1

    You realise that those differences in version would mean that you would have to basically recompile (then debug and recompile) your entire operating system with the three upgraded packages, and deal with a full cascade of dependencies, not just the package you really want to compile, OR basically sit down and rewrite Package 0.02 from the ground up using older libraries than it was originally written for.

    You decide to make do with the old version of the package.

    [–] slazer2au@lemmy.world 3 points 14 hours ago

    Can you not build it in a venv to not mess with your system packages?

    [–] TabbsTheBat@pawb.social 92 points 1 day ago (5 children)

    Guys I downloaded the github link, and it won't launch as an app, what do? :(

    /j

    [–] KazuchijouNo@lemy.lol 63 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    You could add '.exe' at the end. It will definitely not work, but you can still do it for a laugh anyways ;)

    [–] MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz 28 points 1 day ago (2 children)
    [–] kubica@fedia.io 12 points 1 day ago

    Time for an angry bug report.

    [–] superkret@feddit.org 3 points 22 hours ago

    Wine could probably run it

    [–] heavydust@sh.itjust.works 19 points 1 day ago (1 children)
    [–] TabbsTheBat@pawb.social 23 points 1 day ago

    I have standards unfortunately

    [–] Waffle@infosec.pub 12 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    Have you tried downloading the AUR? Oh, it's not available in the AUR? What about the flat pack? The package name changed, but it's not available there either. It's an app image, but to get it to work you're going to need to switch your Nvidia drivers to DKMS. OK... So that didn't work, have you tried reinstalling dracut and ffmpeg?

    [–] TabbsTheBat@pawb.social 14 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    My favourite of course is "just dual boot"

    The solution to every issue x3

    [–] DickFiasco@lemm.ee 8 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

    Dual booting is just using containers on bare metal.

    [–] Waffle@infosec.pub 4 points 23 hours ago

    (γƒŽΰ² η›Šΰ² )γƒŽε½‘β”»β”β”»

    [–] Tippon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

    Now you're just being silly. Everyone knows that Linux is better than Winblow$$$ because all your programs are available from your app store, and can be installed with a few clicks. You never have to go hunting for random downloads again! πŸ™„

    [–] superkret@feddit.org 7 points 22 hours ago

    If it's not in the AUR, it doesn't have more than 10 users in the world.

    [–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

    you gotta click on the blue e on your desktop

    [–] TimeSquirrel@kbin.melroy.org 2 points 22 hours ago

    "STUPID FUCKING SMELLY NERDS"

    [–] RobotZap10000@feddit.nl 4 points 18 hours ago
    [–] 30p87@feddit.org 29 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    yay

    There is a 99% chance it's in there, and there is an 80% chance it uses the latest version/git HEAD

    [–] RustyNova@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)
    [–] rtxn@lemmy.world 24 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    yay, a utility to access the AUR, where users share build scripts instead of binaries. It's just one step above curl | sudo sh in terms of security.

    [–] 30p87@feddit.org 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    Except it automates the steps you'd have to take to inspect and edit the script, if needed. Also, PKGBUILDs are much nicer to read than just plain install scripts. And, of course, it actually builds a package, which is then installed, so it's not only tracked but can be updated like the rest of the system.

    [–] copygirl@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 1 day ago (3 children)

    To be fair, that's why they said

    in terms of security.

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    [–] Flipper@feddit.org 3 points 1 day ago

    I don't think the aur can switch the delivered script whether you are piping it into sh or not.

    [–] systemglitch@lemmy.world 9 points 22 hours ago

    Casual Linux things that get normal people running from the os in fear.

    [–] savvywolf@pawb.social 17 points 1 day ago

    Unless it's a JavaScript app which uses some random build system (that was popular when they started work on the app but is now outdated) that you need to set up and learn.

    Or it's a Python app that doesn't work because you don't have the right version of python and backwards compatibility is a myth.

    [–] Lembot_0001@lemm.ee 20 points 1 day ago

    Nobody likes to figure out dependencies. And C++ template errors are sometimes completely crazy.

    [–] notthebees@reddthat.com 6 points 1 day ago

    And halfway through the compile, it fails.

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