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[–] Wispy2891@lemmy.world 19 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Trump has got another great idea. A tax of 1.5 million dollars for each ship made in China that will dock at any American port, or 1 million if the ship is not made in china but the shipper fleet has a majority of Chinese ships.

So, off before they did like California, Panama, Louisiana, new York, those stops will increase the price of shipping by 4.5 million dollars.

Trump thinks that in this way, in a couple weeks, shipyards will reopen in the states and everyone will buy American ships. Because it takes a couple days to build an oil tanker

Result:

They'll just unload the goods in Canada or Mexico then use trains/trucks. For oil and coal and wheat and other stuff that can't be easily transported by land without ax existing infrastructure, that's an additional 20% cost on top of tariffs. Inflation go go go

[–] Lanske@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

Yeah Trump wants the US to be a great shipbuilder again... but for that you need materials (steel), workers who want to do that sort of job( he's deporting a lot of people) and skill to manufacture ships...

He thinks by taxing countries or companies, they will go to the US, but they won't, and if they do it takes time and a lot of investment..

[–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 192 points 1 day ago (19 children)

Here we go, dissolution of the U.S. is starting. It's a slow roll, but i think that's where we are headed

[–] x00z@lemmy.world 57 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I would love to visit the country of California.

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[–] kreskin@lemmy.world 31 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Well the south finally will get to leave the union and form florida-man-istan, jesus-wasteland-istan and all-hat-no-cattle-istan. Good luck to them. We should have a going away party before we put up a wall to keep them from trying to get back in.

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[–] 4grams@awful.systems 59 points 1 day ago

been thinking and saying for years that we’re on the path to a soviet style balkanization. just wasn’t sure what would be the spark. this certainly smells like one.

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[–] Rene@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago (5 children)

EU is already trying to specifically target products from red states with tariffs.

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[–] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 85 points 1 day ago (7 children)

Last civil war was about state rights to own slaves. Now its state right to avoid trade distribution?

My god the writers need to be fired.

[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago (2 children)

And big money in politics. I’d argue Citizens United was the Dread Scott of our time.

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[–] orclev@lemmy.world 123 points 1 day ago (20 children)

Unfortunately this runs into constitutional problems. While the spineless subhuman creatures in congress and the supreme court seem to have no problem with Trump and his administration ignoring the constitution I fully expect them to come down hard on any state that does so (at least in cases that go against Trump and his policies).

[–] towelie@lemm.ee 3 points 1 day ago

Something something taxation.... something something representation... help me out here americans

[–] peregrin5@lemm.ee 101 points 1 day ago (40 children)

Don't have to care about being unconstitutional if you're not part of the union.

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[–] mesamunefire@lemmy.world 62 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

It would be ironic if businesses come back to California because of the tariffs.

[–] Tempus_Fugit@midwest.social 81 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If Trump thinks he's above the Constitution why can't a state?

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 21 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

No, there is legal precedence for this

Under NAFTA states could impose their own tariffs because NAFTA was a Federal agreement and countries would have to negotiate free trade with individual states

This is just the reverse of that

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 27 points 1 day ago (7 children)

As a non-American, the more i learn about US states, the more I realise that the country is more like a reluctant confederation than an actual unified country.

[–] ijedi1234@sh.itjust.works 1 points 20 hours ago

The US is the Austria-Hungary of our time.

[–] Liz@midwest.social 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah, it made sense when a horse was the fastest way to travel over land. These days? We're stuck with a ridiculous government structure designed when no one knew how democracies worked.

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[–] goldenquetzal@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Holy shit, my prediction model forecast this. 🍿 This is actually a major step toward derailing this coup.

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[–] NotSteve_@lemmy.ca 21 points 1 day ago

Secede and then we can trade :)

[–] But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago (12 children)

Glad to hear, im Canadian and i have no problem buying American products from certain states.

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[–] PurpleSkull@lemm.ee 27 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Hope this falls through. Any trade deals that allow the US to circumvent Trumps policies and thus keep his regime going is bad. The big crash needs to happen before people are motivated to fight back. The slow frog boil is what led us here to begin with.

[–] misteloct@lemmy.world 29 points 1 day ago

This IS what fighting back looks like. It takes many forms.

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[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Kudos to California. The neo-Nazi filled MAGA is all about state rights and I hope they tell California to secede.

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