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cross-posted from: https://feddit.uk/post/26864906

Britain must allow US chlorine-washed chicken into UK markets if it wants relief from sweeping tariffs, Donald Trump has indicated.

It comes after the UK failed to avoid tariffs imposed on the global economy, with the US president slapping a 10 per cent levies on all British exports to the United States.

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In a statement published alongside the tariff announcement, the White House said: “The UK maintains non-science-based standards that severely restrict US exports of safe, high-quality beef and poultry products.”

It suggested that Britain’s ban on chlorinated chicken was among a range of “non-tariff barriers” that limit the US’s ability to trade.

The UK has long ruled out allowing imports of chlorine-washed chicken from the US due to health concerns, with Downing Street on Thursday reiterating its manifesto commitment to high food standards.

Asked whether the UK could allow imports of chlorine washed chicken in order to appease the US, the prime minister’s officials spokesperson said: “Our position on that is unchanged. You’ve got the manifesto commitment on food standards, which obviously remains.”

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The last major polling done on the issue, conducted in 2020, revealed that 80 per cent of Britons are opposed to allowing imports to the UK, and the same proportion is also against allowing chicken products that have been farmed using hormones.

There is also growing pressure from the farming industry to rule out concessions on the issue, amid fears it could undercut British farmers and drive down food standards.

Nigel Farage admitted he would allow American chlorine-washed chicken to be sold in the UK as part of a free trade deal with the US.

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[–] umbraroze@slrpnk.net 13 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

"I'll drop the tariffs for EU if they accept American beer" -Trump, next week

(I don't have much against American beer. But you have to understand that this joke absolutely had to be made. There was no other possible outcome.)

[–] nilclass@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

For now it's a "joke", next week it'll be recorded history

[–] skisnow@lemmy.ca 18 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Or, here's a crazy idea, the US could start meeting the basic safety and animal welfare standards that the entirety of Europe long ago decided was the basic minimum required for something to be suitable for human consumption.

[–] RymrgandsDaughter@lemmy.world 2 points 49 minutes ago

Then how could they poison everyone as cheaply as possible?

[–] HexesofVexes@lemmy.world 9 points 7 hours ago

Or, and here me out here, the UK and EU arrange the most passive aggressive reconciliation ever by removing trade tariffs from one another, then slap a huge tax on any assets owned by the ruler of a foreign nation in their territory.

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 3 points 5 hours ago

Chlorinated chicken dipped in swimming pool water

[–] ReiRose@lemmy.world 17 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

There's no way that the uk is going to be ok with this. It's gross and not how the world works. Stop it America

[–] oo1@lemmings.world 2 points 4 hours ago

Don't be so sure, did you see the quote fom next UK prime minister.

A total cunt admitted he would allow American chlorine-washed chicken to be sold in the UK as part of a free trade deal with the US.

[–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 51 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

The UK maintains non-science-based standards

Maybe look at who is in charge of your health department before your start complaining about "non-science-based standards"

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 6 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

They only say "Science-Based" as a dogwhistle to mean "Ignoring what science says about transpeople and substituting my own evidence based on ignorance and vibes."

[–] Lumbardo@reddthat.com -5 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

The "head" of any department is often not a scientist. Scientists conduct technical work, they don't manage departments or orgs.

[–] BenjiRenji@feddit.org 4 points 3 hours ago

The criticism isn't that RFK isn't a scientist.

[–] SleepyBear@lemmy.world 17 points 18 hours ago (11 children)

Wait....does that mean Americans are currently consuming chicken thats been washed in chlorine?! How the FUCK is that up to scientific and health standards??

[–] letsgo@lemm.ee 2 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

It's up to the American standards, for what that's worth. The chlorine washing makes the meat safe, because the process results in unsafe meat, causing danger to workers (and [speculation]possibly undue suffering for the birds). The EU processes result in meat that doesn't need to be chlorine washed because the process ensures it is safe.

So the problem with chlorine washing is not in the end product but in the process that creates it. It's the EU concern for worker safety that makes chlorine washed chicken problematic.

I'm not defending the USA here and I oppose imports of chlorinated chicken. Just want to ensure the ire is projected in the appropriate direction. If God forbid that idiot Farage gets some power and we end up with chlorinated chicken then it should be clearly labelled as such so that the British consumer can make an informed FUCK OFF.

The UK can't allow the import of chlorinated chicken because then that would shut down our chicken trading, at least, and probably a lot more, with the EU, which is a bigger market than the American one, by about 30%. Fart's team obviously knows this.

[–] FiskFisk33@startrek.website 1 points 4 hours ago

It's up to the American standards, for what that's worth.

Honestly, not much.

[–] wispy_jsp@lemmy.world 10 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Honestly, given all the cramped factory farms and wide spread disease in poultry factories, it's probably good we chlorine them up. Not to say I'd expect another country with better production methods to want to buy our shitty meat though

[–] davidagain@lemmy.world 3 points 8 hours ago

The chlorine only sanitises the outside and any needle that passes through it.

[–] treadful@lemmy.zip 5 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Most of our tap water has a touch of chlorine to kill off microorganisms. No need to jerk that knee.

[–] davidagain@lemmy.world 9 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

The difference is that the chlorine disperses throughout the water and genuinely kills the bacteria, whereas the chlorine wash for chicken only sanitises the surface of the diseased chicken's skin and any needle pushed through it. It does nothing to the meat and merely hides bacteria from detection.

America doesn't have animal welfare rules anything like like the UK and EU have, and their chickens are usually kept in cramped conditions and bathe in their own filth all day long. It's not very uncommon for their bellies to be actually rotting.

Chlorine washes the evidence away.

[–] treadful@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Criticism of the process is fair, but also an emotional knee jerk reaction over the use of chlorine is still unwarranted.

[–] davidagain@lemmy.world 1 points 59 minutes ago

It's not the chlorine, for goodness sake, it's the disease it hides. Are you not listening? Chlorine wash after death is the only sanitary thing that ever happened to these poor mistreated disease-ridden lame birds. We don't accept chlorine washed chicken because there's no easy way to test whether it's diseased meat or healthy meat.

[–] El_Scapacabra@lemm.ee 4 points 18 hours ago

Haven't you heard? It rinses away all the covid from the internal organs. If it works for people it's definitely good enough for chickens.

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[–] not_woody_shaw@lemmy.world 29 points 20 hours ago

Shut the fuck up Donny, you're out of your element.

[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 31 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (2 children)

Why do they want us to eat their chlorinated chicken so badly? Sounds like an evil agenda coming along....

We have our own farmers anyway.

Nigel Farage admitted he would allow American chlorine-washed chicken to be sold in the UK as part of a free trade deal with the US.

So called "nationalist", support local farmers.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 15 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

So called “nationalist”, support local farmers.

Nothing more British than shutting down a local business to reap profit from outsourcing. Just ask Thatcher.

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[–] Ardycake@lemm.ee 14 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

I wasn't born in the US but find myself living here. The food is awful. Cutting corners and padding some pockets, but listeria outbreaks on our food has become a weekly commonplace. Hundreds of recalls a month. The food is so treated its inedible. I cut almost everything out and buy from imported stores as much as possible. Even European brands often have an American version that is full of junk, so I have to read labels so carefully. I wish it wasn't this way. No one here wants this.

[–] mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah, there’s a phenomenon where stereotypically fat Americans move abroad, and suddenly start losing a ton of weight. Not because their eating habits consciously changed, but simply because the food that was readily available was suddenly so much healthier than when they were in America. Almost as if infrastructure has a huge impact on the public’s health.

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[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 11 points 20 hours ago

Now with real bleach - certified Covid-free!

[–] NocturnalEngineer@lemmy.world 13 points 21 hours ago

If I remember, Project 2025 also wanted to open up the NHS to "foreign competition" too.

It won't stop at just chlorinated chicken.

[–] x00z@lemmy.world 32 points 1 day ago

"Free market"

"Buy our chicken or you will lose your market here"

[–] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 36 points 1 day ago

Nigel Farage admitted he would allow American chlorine-washed chicken

Annnnd there you have it.

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