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I don't think it was there until I enabled firefox sync. I'd like to remove what is inside the red box. Does anyone know how to do that?
I now use Librewolf, a free to use fork of firefox and doesn't have these popups. It's otherwise exactly the same as the stock firefox experience (including extensions), but the Mozilla premium services are now opt in.
Same here. I was so tired of having to turn off so much junk every time I installed Firefox.
I've been using LibreWolf for weeks and it hasn't broken a single thing yet... not sure what you're on about
I think you replied to the wrong comment. I haven't been having problems with LibreWolf.
Doesn't it also turn on stuff like aggressive fingerprint protection (which provides more protection against fingerprinting, but also breaks more and more important stuff).
Yes, these additional settings are turned on by default. If you find they interfere with your browser experience you can turn them off to bring things back to near-stock firefox.
I've yet to find anything that it broke after weeks of use... and anyway it takes two seconds to disable that for a few mins in the rare event it's necessary.
Overall an unambiguously better internet experience on LibreWolf coming from years of FireFox for me.
I mean, that's the thing, isn't it? It's easy to turn off if you know that and what you need to turn off. Literally on this same page there's someone mentioning they keep getting logged out, which is because Librewolf clears cookies on exit - which of course was completely reasonable for them not to know. So it feels like "it's exactly the same as Firefox" is setting the wrong expectations.
I didn't say it was exactly the same as FF, I said it immediately improved my experience of the Internet
Auto logouts are IMHO better for society. Putting friction between users and addictive algorithms is a simple way to encourage healthier and more mindful habits. It also encourages better security education
If people have questions like this it's a good thing. It will make them aware of how much privacy they are giving up so they have to make intentional choices about how they design their digital life
Capitalists have really ruined the culture of UX by making it all about what's good for keeping people hooked & helpless rather than what's in our collective best interests
I didn't say it was exactly the same as FF
Yeah I know you didn't, but we're in a comment thread that started with
It's otherwise exactly the same as the stock firefox experience
That's why I responded to check whether it doesn't change a bunch of stuff as well that might catch people off-guard if they expected the same experience.
do you happen to know a fork that doesn't do that? A Firefox exactly the same but without mozilla's BS is what I'm looking for.
Waterfox
You can just disable it.
There's also Floorp which you could check out. I'm not sure how aggressive it is.
Not really, and the reason is that everyone disagrees on what "Mozilla's BS" is - e.g. some say not enabling full protection is BS. Some say it's fine for Mozilla to know what hardware Firefox crashes most on, some say it's none of its business.
But honestly, it's possible to disable almost everything you don't like in Firefox, and it's usually just a toggle. So I think the easiest option is to just do that whenever you run into something you don't like. The alternative is doing it the other way around, i.e. starting with e.g. Librewolf and then undoing their tweaks if you don't like them, but it's harder to know what tweak is responsible for breaking a website you use, for example.
These comments are about as useful as the “switch to Linux” comments.
It's not the same thing as recommending switching to Linux from windows because LibreWolf is an extension of the existing Firefox code. I think it's more akin to downloading an extension or upgrading to windows plus, you don't lose or have to adapt to anything in the changeover.
Yeah, that’s fair. I did download it, but it keeps asking me to reloggin every time I turn on the PC, so that’s annoying, but you’re right, it’s pretty much the same thing as Firefox.
It's because it defaults to clearing cookies on exit. You can turn that off, or make exceptions for sites you login to regularly and don't mind keeping cookies for.
I'm sorry but that's absurd.
Switching to LibreWolf after YEAAAARS of Firefox took me less than five minutes. I've encountered exactly zero downsides and my experience of the internet immediately improved.
Nobody changes operating systems of any sort with such little friction.
It’s not absurd. OP asked for help on something about Firefox, (edit: in the Firefox community), and the top response is for them to switch browsers, which is not an answer to his question.
I know if I asked a question, and the top answer to my post was “lol use the right browser” I’d be a bit annoyed.
Well I was a Firefox user since 2005 and I'm really glad people responded with top answers to my questions like the one above. We all deserve better than the status quo.
Some people may be using Firefox on corporate machines where they cannot (easily) install another browser.
Unless something changed you cannot use Firefox sync on librewolf though? At least last time I checked it wasn't there as it would defeat the purpose. Just saying because OP specifically sees this after switching sync on.
They have it available in the settings now, opt-in.
Oh, nice, thanks for pointing that out.
This is getting bad :(
Do any of these turn it off? It doesn’t say it is for that part, but maybe it would work anyway.
You can do it using css in your userchrome.css.
AFAIK that would just be hiding them. That means you dont benefit from the minor performance boost you get from turning it off in the configuration.
Try Tor Browser. It based on Firefox but they strip out all this crap