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I don't fit very well with the idea of masculinity. I'm just a goofy nerd with a gentle personality and the desire to make others happy. I have always wanted to look soft and approachable; I have smooth, rounded facial features, wavy hair, big glasses, and a clean-shaven face. My personality is utterly non-threatening. I love caring for people, I enjoy being silly and whimsical, I'm a bit clumsy and get flustered easily, I wouldn't hurt a fly (unless I had to), and I'm polite to a fault. My paradise is a warm, cozy, quiet safe haven surrounded by cute plushies.

I'm not manly in the slightest, and I love being that way. I'm a total softie through and through, and I purposely align my appearance with my personality. I look gentle because I am gentle.

I have always been treated differently than my male peers. Many people are inexplicably nicer or softer on me even if they barely know me. Female friends have fawned over me, calling me things like "cute," "adorable," and "sweetheart," and expressing a desire to protect me. And I love it. I don't find it offensive or infantilizing at all.

Through extensive introspection, I later figured out that care and nurturing are incredibly attractive to me, and the funny tickle I felt whenever I was shown care and protection by my female friends was actually a subtle tinge of attraction. It's rather curious that my personality and gender expression just happened to develop in such a way to subconsciously solicit that kind of attention.

This is all well and good, but I worry that this makes me categorically unsexy due to my intentional suppression of gendered characteristics and desire to give off pure, wholesome vibes. Could I really be sexually desirable if I'm the kind of person who apologizes to trees for bumping into them? Some women have even teasingly called me a "Christian" or "virgin" because of this perceived innocence, suggesting that some people do indeed associate my personality with sexual restraint or abstinence.

In reality, I absolutely do want a sexual relationship, and I have always imagined myself treating a partner with the same gentle caregiving energy that I myself crave. I don't do "naughty" or "dominant"; I would view a partner's body as something to passionately take care of, not something to tease or conquer.

I would appreciate some outside perspective on this. Thanks!

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[–] mindaika@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 1 day ago

Sure, you can be whatever kind of man you want. You probably won’t find a lot of … “conventionally attractive” women who are into that though

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 12 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Did you see some of the guys at the Oscars this year?

Colman Domingo SLAYED it.

https://www.instyle.com/best-dressed-men-oscars-2025-11689188

We can have sash belts now? Nobody told me!

[–] 7U5K3N@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Dude looks like he's straight out of Star Trek tos. I'm absolutely here for it.

Love that look.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago

Dress uniform FTW!

[–] magnetosphere@fedia.io 11 points 3 days ago

I would imagine that a cute appearance involves attention to detail. Get your hair cut more often. Pay more attention to your skin and nails. Find a good moisturizer.

[–] Sixtyforce@sh.itjust.works 10 points 3 days ago

Your first paragraph is like looking in a mirror lmao. Hi!

Dating your typical woman was a path to constant failure for me growing up. My endless mixed house parties throughout college never lead to anything sexual let alone romantic either. Stuff like that. Failing to attract each other, there was just an obvious disconnect. I'd get plenty of initial attention (mainly because I'm extreme tall), but once talking we slid off each other. Maybe you get what I mean more than most. Took me too long to figure out why I couldn't find a partner. One nickname was Gentle Giant among friends. I was so unsuccessful people accused me of being closet gay.

Don't find male mind/bodies attractive, and said house parties included very gay and very open roommates. In the end I figured out mentally masculine women do it for me, and there's mutual interest within that grouping. Non-binary especially. We really like each other. But there's a subsection that really matters to me:

and expressing a desire to protect me.

That just does it for me more than anything else. Often found in people who have another quality... something I struggle to describe. People Who Seem To Collect Good People? Best I can do without writing paragraphs. Maybe someone else can do it justice.

So the short answer is: I can only speak of my own bumbling around in this weird thing called life. Possibly experiment more. It could be the problem isn't you, but who you pursue!

Shorter answer:

but IRL is the good stuff. Usually they're not in a dress though :P

[–] angrystego@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago

Cute works, I know several cases where it did. If you feel like you don't emit the sexy vibes enough, try to think of ways you could express your sexuality in harmony with your cute style. Cute doesn't mean asexual, but you need to show it in some way. Perhaps look at how cute women do it not to come across as childish and disinterested in sex - it can be done, cute, wholesome and sexy can coexist well.

[–] Wahots@pawb.social 7 points 3 days ago

That's totally fine! You can still ask people out just the same as anyone else. Love finds those who don't explicitly seek it out. Form friendships, and love is a natural extension of that.

That goes for any sexual orientation, too. Being nice to people goes a long way.

The way to my heart is kindness, gardening, and shortalls (because God, people look so cute in them).

[–] oce@jlai.lu 10 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

What's your age range? I think it's possible more younger women would want the stereotypical masculine man, but I think over 30 and maybe earlier, women tired by the superficial masculinity would be attracted by your kind of personality. Personally I like a balance of both.

[–] LH0ezVT@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 days ago

Bro, I'd love to change with you. I tend to be the opposite, I fear I often come off as aggressive and rude when in fact I am only pissed off at a computer for beeping the wrong way all week.

You say you have some (good) friends, have you considered just asking that? "How do you perceive me, I worry I look ?"

[–] potoo22@programming.dev 8 points 3 days ago (2 children)

There are definitely women who like and appreciate a partner like that. Particularly, demi-sexual women would absolutely love a supportive and caring partner. Pansexual women could too. Many women may not realize they're demi or pan and don't usually advertise themselves as such, but they are there.

I myself don't act very masculine and don't relate well with other men. I identify as the gender apathetic flavor of non-binary. Not being masculine or feminine in mannorisms. I appear male, but like you, my mannerisms are gentle and caring. I definitely have had women friends see me "as a little brother" and cared about me in a platonic way... I don't know if there's a way out of that 😅... BUT they will help you find a date.

When I met my future wife, I let her know I wanted to date her before being friends but after being aquatinted. She appreciated my politeness and care and reciprocated it back. We've been married for 10 years now. Found out later she was demi-sexual. She didn't find me attractive at first (she didn't find anyone truly attractive), but she did as she loved me more.

[–] Nefara@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago

I find this funny because while reading this post I thought to myself "I don't see why I wouldn't date someone like that?" and I identify as demisexual. I'm already taken, unfortunately for OP, but I'm sure if he were to mention wanting someone to cuddle or being lonely to those friends who called him "cute" and "adorable" someone may step up and either find him a match or admit interest.

[–] sprigatito_bread@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago

I definitely have had women friends see me “as a little brother” and cared about me in a platonic way...

Lmao, I got called a little brother by a friend too!

She literally changed my life by helping me work through my past struggles with gender expectations and trust issues, so she was definitely a mentor figure for me at the time. The reason I can proudly share my desire to be a cute guy is directly thanks to her. She showed me that people truly liked me for who I was, even if I was a bit different. It turns out that what made me different was exactly what she liked about me the most. After all, the first thing she ever said to me was, "Oh my god, you're adorable!"

I'm so happy that it worked out for you! Your story is relatable to me and gives me hope.

[–] VivianRixia@piefed.social 7 points 3 days ago

I was the exact same way in high school before I came out as trans and had no problem interacting with women and even had 2 romantically interested in me because I was soft and sweet. Stick with it and you'll find someone. Don't let other guys bully you into throwing it away, being true to yourself is a form of confidence and confidence is sexy.

Here's the thing. Most women I've met aren't superficial. If you were to gather a bunch of girls and get them to rank each other by attractiveness, you'd effectively get them ranked by extroversion. Also, a bunch of the stereotypical manly things make for bad partners.

I think a lot of the signals you are sending will be recieved as Dad Material. This means you will only attract girls that want to settle down and who imagine a future where you and a little mini version of them are having the best princess tea parties. I see this as a blessing, but this also means you will attract the crazy ones who want you to impregnate them immediately right now.

I am pretty similar to how you described yourself. Four years ago, i also was in a similar rut, although i had dated several girls at that point. Three years ago, I met a girl that was literally everything I wanted in a partner and more. A year and a half ago, I proposed to her, and this year we are going to get married. As far as I know, literally everyone who meets me tells her she's got the most amazing partner and that she's so lucky to have such a caring, polite sweetheart as her future husband. The only person who doesn't like me is her Karen of a mom, because I think she envisioned her perfect little girl marrying a rocket surgeon or something. I think this is similar to how you'll end up.

Also, if I'm reading you right, you sound like either a teen or a new adult, since you're still figuring yourself out. As an adult, I never had a hard time getting a partner; I suspect you won't either. Just keep working on yourself.

As someone who is probably 3x your age and has been around the block a few times in some non-standard social circles, let me assure you there are plenty of women out there looking for exactly what you described yourself as. Are they the majority of , probably not, but who cares? You aren't looking to date 500 people, just 1.

Be yourself and go find her.

[–] thermal_shock@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

Cute? like a baby turtle!!

[–] Copythis@lemmy.world -4 points 1 day ago

This is how you end up in an abusive relationship....

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

As a man, men think women care about looks more than they do.

Looks are much bigger for men than for women.

Obviously a massive generalisation, but in general. Like "men are physically stronger than women". Not all men are stronger than women but...

Anyway.

Looks really don't matter that much. I'd say women pay more attention to personality with the same difference as there is between how much men value looks vs how women value looks.

Also, if I was being very crude, I'd say "status" is the "looks" for women. That's what you get very beautiful women with older rich men more than you do young hot men with old riches women.

But I'd like not to be crude so disregard that last bit.

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[–] missandry351@lemmings.world 5 points 3 days ago

Well, I find it atractive when a man doenst want to fit gender roles

[–] weirdbeardgame@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago
[–] nutsack@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 days ago

you just need more cool friends. feminine men are out there dating lesbians all the time.

[–] GaMEChld@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

There's someone out there for everyone. I wish you luck finding them.

[–] cheers_queers@lemm.ee 3 points 3 days ago

I have an ex who is like you, and i love that about him, it is one of his most attractive qualities.. we are still besties but didnt work out due to me figuring out my identity as primarily being attracted to femme people (yes i think thats why i loved him so much lol) but he was not into presenting that way. Also i was becoming more and more masc and he's straight.

Now that i think about it, this might be the opposite of encouraging lmao...hopefully mine was just a fringe case, but honestly the only reason i would ever choose to do it differently if i could, would be because he would have those ywars back to find the right person. I don't regret the relationship and he's one of my dearest friends.

Anyyway, im high as fuck and im gonna go watch tv with my girl. Lol

I only have one piece of advice from my experiences: be your authentic self and dont be afraid to open yourself to others. If you do, the right people tend to just show up. its honestly magical. Good luck to you. :)

Most people are attracted to others or not attracted to other based on visual information and pheromone information. Then secondarily, people become more or less attracted to someone based on personality.

So if your personality is not dominant and comes across as submissive or mild, that really probably has zero impact at all on the initial attraction of others.

[–] Hikermick@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

You do you, it's the only true ay to be happy. You'll attract women that were raised in a family where the wife took on a more dominant role and the father was a chill laid back guy. In my experience it's inevitable, we're made up of our parents DNA.

Gonna put this out there because nobody else has said it but you might want to glance over at @egg_irl@lemmy.blahaj.zone and see how things relate to you. You are perfectly within your rights to be a lesbian if you would prefer that.

[–] dwemthy@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

Absolutely brother!

[–] riverSpirit@thelemmy.club 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

You can, but overall women won’t appreciate it. For all the talk, nearly every couple you see outside is conventional.

So you’ll be looking at 1% of your dating pool, and having to find a suitable match from that reduced choice.

This guy doesn't sound basic so why would he want those basic bitches? 😂

Do you wanna be mostly/sorta/un happy with someone that was easy to get because you were role playing someone else, or do you want to be truly happy with the person that accepted you as you are, but took a lot more effort to find?

Different people will make different choices in that situation. Everyone has to decide for themselves.

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