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[–] skozzii@lemmy.ca 101 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Never thought I would see a flood of Americans refugees coming to Canada to escape a tyrannical government...

I guess that's what you get when you elect a criminal with dementia as president.

[–] zebidiah@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 days ago

I mean.... There was that whole Vietnam draft thing in the 60s/70s...

[–] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world 37 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Really? People have been talking about it since the Bush administration. Until now things hadn't gotten bad enough for people to actually do it in large numbers, but people saying that if the Republicans win they'd move to Canada has been repeated so often over the decades that it became a bit of a joke.

[–] lorski@sopuli.xyz 38 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Trump 2.0 is WAY worse than any Bush.

[–] tocopherol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 29 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Without the crucial steps the W Bush admin took, there would be no Trump. It's not that Trump isn't worse but they are part of the same fascist movement, just further developed.

[–] lorski@sopuli.xyz 12 points 3 days ago (1 children)

We are talking people fleeing the USA for their lives. This is Trump phenomena as he is demonizing and literally going after dissenters.

[–] ubergeek@lemmy.today 14 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Bush Jr. started doing that. I recall seeing protestors who opposed the Iraq invasion being arrested for dissent. Remember Dixie Chicks? Yeah, they got cancelled for that. And, lets also not forget about the random violence against anyone remotely kinda like an Arab, to include Punjabis, Liberians, Somalians, Burmese, etc.

I feel like waaaay too many people forgot about post 9-11 shit.

[–] AbsoluteChicagoDog@lemm.ee 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Plus don't forget Bush Jr was NOT ELECTED he lost the election and became president anyway.

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[–] TronBronson@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Those who forget post 9-11 bullshit are doomed to repeat it. They were beating up Sikhs no fucks given.

[–] CheeseToastie@lazysoci.al 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Remember when we thought Bush was bad? God I'd love to have him instead

[–] TronBronson@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

I can’t believe GWB = good old days now. My how we’ve fallen

[–] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world 10 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I know, but it's the "never thought" part that I'm disputing. People have been thinking of this situation for a long time.

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[–] tacobellhop@midwest.social 53 points 3 days ago (2 children)

We’re definitely in show me your papers days

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago (2 children)
[–] beejboytyson@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

What is it about black on red...

[–] Retrograde@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago

Except now they just scan your retina from afar

Please don't give him ideas.

[–] LillyPip@lemmy.ca 201 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (20 children)

Neat. I wish I could do that. I tried several years ago when I actually had some money because I saw this coming. Nobody wanted disabled people then, and less so Americans now.

People wouldn’t listen back then, when I was called hyperbolic and alarmist, and good fucking luck leaving now. People think leaving is easy – it’s not. We’re stuck in this shit show.

Can’t fix it, can’t leave. Going down with the ship. Fuck everyone who voted to kill me. I will not survive this administration. I’ll probably die within the year because, though I worked my ass off in IT since the 90s, I had to burn through my savings by being weak enough to get sick. *I already have to choose between food and medicine, so I mostly don’t eat. I’ll just stop buying medicine.

So fuck me, I deserve to die now. There’s no escape. There’s no hope.

[–] CheeseToastie@lazysoci.al 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Lilly I'm so sorry this is happening and as a disabled woman, I get it. We're bottom of the ladder, and nobody cares. Feel free to lean on the sisterhood in !WomensStuff@lazysoci.al we really do get it... it's not much but its all I have to offer you.

[–] LillyPip@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Thank you. I really appreciate your support, and I hope you’re weathering this as best as possible.

[–] CheeseToastie@lazysoci.al 2 points 2 days ago

Np we need to look out for each other right now

[–] Jhuskindle@lemmy.world 87 points 4 days ago (6 children)

I just want to say i live in a safe area kinda and have room if you want to survive next 4 years in a progressive state in the middle of the woods but near jobs.

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[–] ilost7489@lemmy.ca 35 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I know this isn’t related to the article but I would love it as a fuck you to Trump if Canada started allowing political refugees from the states

[–] muusemuuse@lemm.ee 15 points 3 days ago (5 children)

My fear would be our MAGAts would lie tou you, claim they were never MAGA, get in, and start the same shit there.

[–] overcooked_sap@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 days ago

Just so you know, Canada’s version of the NSA actually hosted NSA staff or provided signal intelligence to US agencies so they could circumvent the “no spying on us citizens” part of many laws.

We do know how to profile people and have done it internally quite well for some time. Our blind spot is more international due to being the US lapdog. But that will change soon enough.

[–] Bonzaibongo@lemm.ee 13 points 3 days ago

they would have to scrub their entire social medias, they can barely work their iphones half the time.

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[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 83 points 3 days ago (14 children)

Must be nice to be able to leave

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 56 points 3 days ago (4 children)

scientists are usually the first target of when a dictator takes power, they often leave before shit hits the fan. then it goes to POC, and then lgbtq+, and then non-loyalists.

[–] andros_rex@lemmy.world 19 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Controlling the universities is for control of information.

The Nazis could easily burn down the Institute of Sex Research and all it contents. Today’s fascists cannot burn down the science on queer people and global warming.

Universities have smart people who can say “hey this is the way your economic policies are harming this group of people” or “being LGBT is a normal human variation” or “the American civil war was fought over slavery” or “here are characteristics that seem to be common to every incarnation of fascism, and how they all seem to be related to what’s happening now.”

The idiot arm attacks knowledge online with Alex Jones style “information warfare” - just repeating insane falsehoods over and over again. Never playing defense, always flooding the web with lies and half truths. This is also why fascists love AI so much. (How much time do people waste arguing with bots? And the amount of bots makes these ideas seem more “normal” and common then they are…)

[–] Krono@lemmy.today 23 points 3 days ago (3 children)

It kinda seems like immigrants and anti-war protesters made it to the top of the list this time.

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[–] RecursiveParadox@lemmy.world 23 points 3 days ago (10 children)
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[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 43 points 3 days ago

Wouldn't say this put loud until I'm in Canada, but yeah. Leave while you can

[–] Freshparsnip@lemm.ee 67 points 3 days ago

I'd be afraid to announce it until I'm out

[–] espentan@lemmy.world 58 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (14 children)

love America because it doesn’t have kings

I'm not convinced a president who can act with greater impunity than a king in any modern monarchy is better.

I read that a lot, "we don't have a king, thank cod". Is it because you've seen what a hell hole e.g. the Scandinavian countries are? /s

A king in a modern monarchy is nothing more than a representative of the country. He cuts ribbons and holds encouraging speeches on New Year's. That's pretty much it.

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