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It seems to be related to some advertising push from a partner named Alfonso that is gathering information cross-platform anything that appears on your screen and pushing advertising to you during playback.

Hopefully not, but that's what it looks like from early reading.

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[–] KingOogaBooga@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

If you buy the TV and they don't watch your shit. then change TOS to watch your shit. They should refund a percentage if you return the TV. They changed the deal after the fact. Should be illegal.

[–] Melatonin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 hours ago

I agree 100%.

And you speak like Rorschach in The Watchmen.

[–] noxypaws@pawb.social 5 points 4 hours ago

My LG CX has been blocked from the network for years, starting from the instant the fucker popped up some notice about some shit that wasn't relevant to the TV displaying content.

Get that shit airgapped. Use a Steam Deck or an old PC tower or laptop to take over for the builtin stuff.

[–] HelixDab2@lemm.ee 3 points 4 hours ago

...Stop using the "smart" services...? Yeah, definitely that.

[–] Thorry84@feddit.nl 55 points 1 day ago (2 children)

This is one of my pet peeves. With these modern internet connected devices, manufacturers can just change the terms and conditions on you after you've made the purchase. OK, so would it be fair to say I can also change the terms and conditions, like for example this devalues my product and I want part of my money back?

It's such bullshit, especially with something like a phone or a TV, the software is a big part of why I select a certain device to purchase over another. I then want that devices to behave exactly like when I purchased it. Being connected to the internet means it requires regular updates for security. But these days that also means fucking with the features and the EULA, I hate that shit.

[–] GrumpyDuckling@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 hours ago

There's been quite a few class actions over this. A famous one is sony dropping the ability to install linux on the ps3.

[–] Melatonin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 13 hours ago

Didn't some very clever person send a company his own change of terms and conditions? I think I remember something like that.

I wish I was an extremely smart lawyer type person and could jack them up like that myself.

[–] vk6flab@lemmy.radio 60 points 1 day ago (24 children)

My LG TV is not connected to the internet.

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[–] fubarx@lemmy.world 24 points 1 day ago

Pihole block list for TVs: https://raw.githubusercontent.com/Perflyst/PiHoleBlocklist/master/SmartTV.txt

If your router supports blocking, you can just do it manually one by one and see when things break.

[–] Tronn4@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 4 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

So just carry on as normal?

[–] Tronn4@lemmy.world 4 points 14 hours ago

Stay the course captain

Offline.

Mostly just use my Kodi/Shield setup+my 4kUHD player.

[–] Tarquinn2049@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Read carefully, most of those do not need to be accepted or agreed to.

Always assume they are trying to trick you into thinking you have to agree to new legally optional features.

The good news is, even if you did accidentally agree to them, you can revoke it deep in the settings menu.

[–] Melatonin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Thank you, I already got that good advice from another awesome person like yourself! Not only was I able to avoid falling for their trap, but I unchecked some options I had apparently checked in the past!

The ole Lemmy reversearoo!!! Thanks as always,

🎵 I get by with a little help from my friends! 🎶

[–] kindenough@kbin.earth 21 points 1 day ago

My LG, and all other TV’s in my home are disconnected from the internet, because of ACR and ads. I use a seperate setup box. I did have a pihole blocking most of the smart tv telemetry, but I still did not trust the smart part of my tv.

[–] TheOSINTguy@sh.itjust.works 20 points 1 day ago

Disconnecting it from the internet should do the trick.

[–] Artemis@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It looks like you only have to agree to the first two options, if I'm reading correctly. Definitely second the pi-hole option if that isn't the case though...super easy to find telemetry domains based on what still works after blacklisting something (you can also find lists online).

[–] Melatonin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Oh my that really helped, thank you so much.

I really was freaking out there thinking I had to agree to all that crap.

A 100% explore the pi-hole thing. Plus why don't we all become multi-billionaires by selling TVs that just TV? And toasters that just toast? Smartphones that do things that you put on them, but don't do things that you don't?

How about we start a company that makes shit that does what it's supposed to do and doesn't do extra shit? (...And encourage an active and open plug-in community)

[–] dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

There are two problems with scaling back to the old way of doing things: 1) enshitification and 2) endless seeking of upward growth and profit.

This case is especially egregious since it's not an extra thing that made this TV look like a good deal at Target/BestBuy/whatever. Instead, it's a secondary way for LG to directly monetize your use of the appliance (ads and data). So, they've all but given up trying to make a better or more cost-effective TV and are just figuring out how to charge you rent for it instead.

[–] Melatonin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Well it's just like the health industry really. Why sell you a cure, when they can sell you a prescription for life.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 2 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

"Prescription for life" is rarely actually the situation. I assure you, they'd much rather garnish your wages for life in exchange for curing your cancer than bankrupt you on chemo until you die. Vaccines are encouraged despite reducing your odds of needing lifelong treatments as is quitting smoking and getting exercise.

No they're greedy and will have their money, but they'll do it with shit like evergreening patents or just taking all your money or developing a new medicine with less than sufficient research to verify its efficacy or safety.

Sorry, I see "patient for life" rhetoric routinely used against the disabled and trans people who have medication we rely on that isn't even particularly profitable as it's long been in the public domain

[–] Melatonin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (1 children)

Wait are you trying to say that pharmaceutical companies spend as much or more time working on tours for diseases as they do on treating symptoms? I think I disagree with you although I don't have any data. I can't remember outside of vaccines the last time I heard of anything getting cured.

I have to admit I don't really understand your point, but it sounds a lot bigger than this thread. I don't know if you've posted before but maybe you should organize what you're trying to say and make it a post so other people can interact with it and it can get more visibility than just this comment on an unrelated topic.

It sounds like you might have a lot to say on this.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Making a top level post on lemmy correcting common misinformation in a field that's highly politicized and not an area I have professional level expertise in sounds like a thoroughly unpleasant experience. I just wanted to correct it where I saw it

[–] Melatonin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

I didn't really understand the correcting misinformation part of your comment though. Are you saying that big pharma DOES work on cures as a goal, or that ongoing prescriptions are not part of a plan that they have to make money? I guess that's why I'm thinking a post might be an order because it doesn't seem like you're able to get enough information in a comment.

At least for someone like me, who isn't really very intuitive and also isn't particularly smart, so I benefit a lot from the ongoing discussion that comes from replies to a post more than I do from a single comment from someone.

I particularly didn't understand this sentence:

I assure you, they'd much rather garnish your wages for life in exchange for curing your cancer than bankrupt you on chemo until you die.

Why would you assure me of that? Maybe if you could expand on it and ELI5, I might be able to get what you're saying a little better.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

For your last bit, the reason I assure that is because a cure for cancer would allow for them to charge significantly more over the long run than current treatments as the person would live longer and be better able to maintain their income and insurance (chemo is physically extremely rough on the body).

Novel cures are difficult. This is because the low hanging fruit are largely plucked. Bacteria are really only a threat when not caught or when they develop antibiotic resistance thanks to the efforts of mid 20th century research. Fungi that infect humans are rare and we have effective in body fungicides. Animal parasites are largely handled by antiparasitics and changes to infrastructure and hygiene. And plant infections are so rare idk if they're a thing. This leaves viruses and nonpathogenic diseases.

Viruses are caught by antivirals sometimes but they're a real pain as they don't really have enough biology to attack via deluging a system with something to kill it without harming you. This means you sometimes get stuff that works like hiv retrovirals which were the results of decades of nonprofit research. Or you get vaccines.

This is actually why smallpox had a vaccine but the black death doesn't. Black death is a bacteria and you can treat it with antibiotics. Tuberculosis and leprosy similarly just have a cure and while they may leave you with permanent damage, that's damage they did before the cure. The great plagues of mankind were systemically destroyed or defanged last century.

And that leaves endogenic (originating from within) diseases. You have stuff like cancer, which might be easiest to think of as a yourself infection. Cancer is any one of a staggering number of genetic mutations causing anything from a pigmentation cell to a neuron getting a few switches flipped and now it reproduces without responding to self destruct signals and begins spreading. We've begun curing cancer by cancer, but it's difficult and since there are so many cancers that are all different many of these cures are pretty niche medicines. That's where curing really is these days.

Because the rest is crap like organ system issues. In such instances there's not really a switch to flip or a thing to kill to make the problem go away forever. If you don't produce insulin what you need is insulin you didn't produce. Same goes for all sorts of other hormones and enzymes. And stuff like multiple sclerosis, well that's something researchers are still trying to understand better for even diagnostic purposes.

When it comes to conspiracies ask yourself who the most honest person who might have to knowingly advance the conspiracy is, how many of that person is there, and why did they keep their mouth shut. Medical researchers would have to knowingly advance that, and a lot of them.

[–] Melatonin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 hours ago

Well that was a very interesting read.

As to conspiracies, I was not advancing one. I was simply stating what seemed like a very obvious financial move on the part of a for-profit organization. Why sell you something if I can rent it.

Medical researchers are victims of funding and not in control of that at all. Those decisions are made a level higher. And they're made on the basis of profit, not human wellness in general.

At least that's what my thinking tells me but, I have NO basis in fact and it sounds like you know a lot more about these things than I do.

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[–] GoatTnder@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I use a Roku and the Roku remote instead of the TV one. The Roku remote has power, volume, and mute buttons that control the TV. And that's really all you need. Is there a similar remote for Fire Stick?

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[–] DuskyRo@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Disconnect from the internet. Buy Mi Box S 2nd gen & update it. Root it(optional). Debloat, install Kodi, SmartTube or Stremio. I recommend FLauncher for alternative launcher.

[–] mybuttnolie@sopuli.xyz 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Tried this mi box a few years ago and I couldn't figure it out.. It was like crippled android. Couldn't find the apps that I wanted, keyboard didn't have my language available so I was missing characters that I need to access my smb share where I would have had the apks. Got mad and threw it out the window. Went looking for it the next day as I wanted to return it, I'm poor so I can't waste money like that, but my neighbor was outside just yelling something about his car's windshield, so decided to stay indoors. The next day it was gone, so I bought a used cheap mini pc, installed mint on it and been using it with a remote that has kb and trackpad, 5/5.

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