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[–] ZombieGary@lemmy.world 7 points 6 days ago

I don’t think Ukraine should have to sign a minerals deal with anyone in exchange for protection. What Russia did and is doing was/is wrong and no other country should be exploiting this. Freedom only costs a buck o’five. Not a minerals deal.

[–] unemployedclaquer@sopuli.xyz 0 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

did anyone even ask that total poser world leader Zelenskyy WHO DOESN'T EVEN WEAR A SUIT what the fuck!

sorry about the caps not intended

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 64 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Smart move.

What an incredible shady shit deal too.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 week ago

tbf its not much different than what the us have been doing to the third world for some decades. just par for the course with nations they consider cannon fodder.

[–] Vopyr@lemmy.world 51 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

This deal is dog shit, and there's no point in negotiating anything while the US president is a deranged Trump, imo. We need the European Union and NATO, so if Trump doesn't want us to join, he can go to hell.

[–] The_v@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago (2 children)

The weird thing about sovereign nations, they are sovereign.

A government can borrow 5 trillion in funds from banks in another country and just not pay it back. Sovereign nation, they can do that.

Sign a treaty saying that they won't bomb the shit out of their neighbor. Then bomb the shit out their neighbor. Sovereign nations can do that.

Make an agreement with a delusional geriatric giving them mineral rights to half their country. Then invalidate it when the idiot is out of office. Sovereign nations can do that.

[–] realitista@lemm.ee 4 points 1 week ago

I think in Ukraine's position, this wouldn't be a good idea. They unfortunately need to keep to their agreements to keep the support of their allies. I think they'd be much better off to just not sign the agreement and let their European allies take over. Either that or sign something that makes Trump think he's getting something when he's really not (my understanding is that almost all of the rare earths now sit on territory occupied by Russia, so that's likely to be what the original agreement was).

[–] eugeniolbocca@mastodon.uno 1 points 1 week ago

@The_v @Vopyr this is why the EU is so revolutionary

[–] bradorsomething@ttrpg.network 51 points 1 week ago

Europe needs to put troops in western Ukraine and say “come at me, bro” or they’re gonna end up having to do it anyway later against the stronger Russia.

[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 36 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

They already signed the give up your nukes and get the USA to protect you deal…..so yeah I don’t think I’d trust an even shadier deal” with demented Putin simp grandpa

[–] pleasegoaway@lemm.ee 5 points 1 week ago

Ukraine should never trust a thing from the US again, at least not under the trump regime.

[–] j4k3@lemmy.world 27 points 1 week ago

The USA has made itself irrelevant so why bother. No one will continue fielding US proprietary weapons now. Something like the F35 is a joke now. Any treaty with the USA is meaningless. I would not do any business with the USA at all for any reason if I was in any other country. I hate that I live in this embarrassment of a shit hole.

[–] ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I really wish this deal would go to the EU, and with better terms for Ukraine.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago

EU membership too? Holy what a racket. "You can't join our club, and you can't join other people's clubs either!"

[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago

It’s extortion

[–] ryedaft@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Make a deal with the US but only for minerals in the areas currently controlled by Russia

[–] Tuuktuuk@sopuli.xyz 10 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Thay was Zelenskyj's original suggestion that Trump twisted into this monstrosity.

Still useful, though. It has made Trump show his true intentions much more clearly, rallying civilized countries more firmly behind Ukraine.

[–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Weird pivot. Does he mean NATO?

[–] HK65@sopuli.xyz 11 points 1 week ago

No, EU. It's been in the works for a while, in fact it's part of why the war started.

An EU member Ukraine would make the EU independent on Russia or the US for that matter. It also comes with better security guarantees that Article 5.

[–] MrMakabar@slrpnk.net 5 points 1 week ago

In 1990 Poland and Ukraine had about the same level of wealth. Poland joined the EU and is doing much better then Ukraine today and that was already clearly the case before the war started. That is the case for other countries who joined the EU as well. In addition to that the EU is also a security alliance, with nuclear weapons and a massive military behind it.