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Where are your militias against government Tyranny? (lemmy.world)

submitted 1 week ago* (last edited 6 days ago) by Jarix@lemmy.world to c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml

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American Militia Members. Where the hell are you? THIS is what you exist for and you are doing NOTHING!

Edit: I've only heard "defense against tyranny" as justification for these militias by these militia

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[–] teawrecks@sopuli.xyz 6 points 1 week ago

Oh, honey...

[–] rusticus@lemm.ee 6 points 1 week ago

“Not all tyranny is bad”

-maga dumbshits

[–] OmegaLemmy@discuss.online 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

if you count urban terrorism, we have Atleast three groups. All of them communist or communist in name.

[–] Jarix@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

I'm responding to groups self identifying as a militia, and that claim to exist as a check against tryanny. For what is worth

[–] MummifiedClient5000@feddit.dk 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

We were assured that the guns were there for protection and the many thousand child-sized coffins were just the cost of freedom; A trade-off because tyrants were lurking right outside the door.

Now a tyrant has taken over with barely any resistance and it seems that all those children died for nothing.

Shameful.

[–] stickly@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Maybe we just didn't let enough children die... 🤔

[–] cypherpunks@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Government tyranny? Militias are (in the parlance of our times) here for it.

They'll fight against Border Patrol, and even plot to kill them sometimes, but only when they think they aren't doing enough.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-48029360

https://time.com/6141322/border-vigilantes-militias-us-mexico-immigrants/

https://www.newsnationnow.com/us-news/immigration/border-coverage/militia-convicted-border-patrol-agents/

https://www.wired.com/story/border-militias-immigrants-trump/

https://www.texastribune.org/2024/02/07/border-el-paso-fbi-investigation/

[–] Darleys_Brew@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 week ago

Have been for a while. Probably for ever. True of probably any country.

[+] Bzdalderon@lemmy.ca -13 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

To be clear, authoritarianism is rampant on both sides of the aisle. The gross resistance to even basic right wing ideology is proof of that (which to be clear I'm not calling Trump basic right wing). Hell the fact you're calling for violence is more proof.

Left and right, people want to force others to believe what they believe period. If you don't agree you get attacked.

We need to stop "fighting" each other, and start listening to each other. Then, instead of fighting amongst ourselves, we can unite against the common threat. Oligarchy, and plutocracy.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The problem is that right wing ideology, basic or not, supports oligarchy, plutocracy, whatever you want to call it. Calling basic millitant opposition to oppressive structures an issue of "authoritarianism" and then seeking a solution somehow unburdened by the sin of needing to actually stand for itself or against the larger problem at hand is naive and idealistic.

I do agree that speaking past each other is absolutely a key problem, but speaking against opposition to right-wingers gets in the way of that message.

[–] Bzdalderon@lemmy.ca -4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Or maybe the mere fact that you feel that way is more proof of my point, and why we need to fix the communication. I don't think the left and right are actually that far apart, but identity politics is a wedge movement meant to divide.

If instead we speak about actual policy, and changes we want to se, we may get more traction working together.

Also, left and right both support both oligarchy and plutocracy.

The right sets the conditions for all business to grow which results in people getting rich leaving everyone else behind to fend for themselves. The left set the conditions to decide where exorbitant about of tax dollars go which has proven time and time again to result in nepotism and gross financial mismanagement. See how those broad strokes are simply inflammatory claims?

Orwells Politics and the English Language is a must read on exactly why this kind of dialogue is exactly what they want us to be having.

Violence is not the answer though. Not yet. Uncoordinated violence would just result in thousands dead and no change. Watch Les Misérables again if you doubt me.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 week ago (22 children)

The Left stands for some form of collectivized property ownership, while the Right stands for individual property ownership. Ie, the Left stands broadly for Socialism while the Right broadly stands for Capitalism. These are diametrically opposed.

The characterization of the left and right you give, conflating taxes with leftism and business with rightism, is an extremely narrow view of Political Economy that sees Capitalism as the only existing option. This is wrong, and confusing for everyone else.

As for Orwell, I wouldn't really give much credit to that sex abusing chauvanist. He is celebrated in the West as someone claiming to be on the Left, while working with British intelligence agencies and making lists of suspected Jews and communists, both of which he hated. Everyone should read On Orwell in my opinion.

Violence is a tool, and a necessary one, sadly. Millitant organization has only ever been the way the Working Classes have been able to gain real victories. Read Blackshirts and Reds and listen to Blowback, Revolution is the only genuine path that has liberated the working classes.

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[–] slacktoid@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Why should I listen to someone who wants to dehumanize my existence?

[–] Bzdalderon@lemmy.ca -3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

What existence is that?

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