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GOP presidential candidate draws renewed criticism after suggesting slavery helped African Americans develop skills such as being a blacksmith

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[–] thefloweracidic@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The claim that slaves benefited from slavery is like saying you benefited from getting your arm torn off because you are now ten pounds lighter.

[–] knjhu378HNJ@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 1 year ago

Exactly, there's a sick, twisted sort of truth in there, but dude is forgetting the slavery side, the no freedom side. He can go into slavery himself if he thinks it's such a great way to learn lucrative new skills.

[–] MrSpArkle@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

The point of the claim is to diminish the horrors of slavery and to eliminate it as a factor in the current poverty, lack of education, and crime that endemic in black communities.

Once they do that they can just say it’s a “race” thing, and re-employ racist policies to put black people in their “proper place”, whether it be one of servitude, subjugation, or exile depends on the flavor of bigot.

[–] chaogomu@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

I always like to point out that when congress banned the transatlantic slave trade in 1808, it didn't stop the desire of slaveholders for new slaves.

Enslaved women were used as brood mares until they physically could not produce more children. Then some of those women were subjected to medical experimentation (without painkillers) to repair the damage caused by pregnancies either too frequent or too early.

The population of enslaved black people quadrupled in the 50 years after the transatlantic slave trade was banned. White slave owners would often rape their enslaved women, and then sell off the children for profit. And could get more profit, because the children had lighter skin.

Oh, and that ban on the transatlantic slave trade? That was very easy to get around. Jim Bowie, as an example, used to smuggle slaves from French pirate slaver traders into the US through the swamps of Louisiana. Then he moved to Texas as part of a plan to turn it into a slave holding nation. (Mexico had actually banned slavery)

Jim Bowie, died at the Alamo, likely in bed shitting himself from cholera. Couldn't have happened to a more deserving sort.

I really should try to control my tangents...

[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

If the GOP candidate is so enthusiastic to extol the benefits of being a slave, why has he not volunteered himself into slavery so that, he too, could gain these benefits he's claiming enslaved people received?

[–] fubo@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

DeSantis doubles down on his estimate that his electoral chances really don't depend on the votes of anyone who isn't a doctrinaire white-supremacist.

[–] thefloweracidic@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm pretty sure any "skills" learned under slavery didn't create any amount of net good. When slavery ended the living conditions for former slaves plummeted. As a slave they were property, they had value, and their owners had good reason to keep them alive or maintain their selling value. As a free citizen they became a business cost, and held no value to their bosses. Therefore former slaves would get paid next to nothing to do the same brutal work they were doing as slaves, with a whole tsunami of apathetic racism to deal with too.

Yeah, a black man may have learned blacksmithing, but his life was still shit. The life of his children was still shit. Those "skills" didn't do jack shit, if they could even apply them? Like imagine being an uneducated recently freed slave in a society where an overwhelming amount of cunts hate you for no good reason, now imagine what a job search would be like under those conditions.

Nothing about slavery was fucking good.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Nothing about slavery was fucking good.

Disney got a movie out of it! Zip-a-de-doo-dah!

[–] MicroWave@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Unbelievable

Some on the right defended DeSantis, including Fox News host Jesse Watters.

“No one is arguing slaves benefited from slavery,” Watters said Friday on his prime time show. “No one is saying that. It’s not true. They are teaching how Black people develop skills during slavery in some instances that can be applied for their own personal benefit.”

[–] killernova@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sooo... they did benefit from slavery, and also didn't benefit from slavery? He said both things in the same breath....

Obviously slavery is purely wrong.

[–] billiam0202@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Doublethink is a requirement to be a Fox News host.

[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

Can we get a triple down for the hat trick?

[–] Sir_Simon_Spamalot@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

The guy must've been inspired by Django.

He didn't watch it til the end.