Great opportunity to mention Brave is owned by a dipshit right-wing homophobe.
this post was submitted on 23 Mar 2025
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And funded by a right-wing billionaire who owns the largest corporate intelligence agency on the planet. Your data is not safe with Brave.
Except your data not being safe with Brave doesn't depend on who owns it. It's a technical conclusion that should follow from technical traits of a system. Those are such that using a modern web browser to do modern web things is not secure period.
You identify as a liberal politically, don't you?
Always has been.
Right beside the fact that their monetary model relies on user activity tracking. Yet they advertise privacy.
A browser that had a seemingly unlimited budget for advertising before it even had users is suspicious as hell.
I've never trusted brave.
Firefox
Firefox
Firefox
Firefox derivatives
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- Opera
Aaaand tab closed.
This list to me feels like AI trying to average the commoner internet
And the comments here really show it
Eww opera, at least it's slightly better than opera gx
Edit: TOR? I stopped treating this guy seriously once I read this. Nobody uses TOR for regular browsing. They're full of shit.
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I switched from Firefox to Floorp and haven't looked back. Less bloated, same features, haven't found an extension that isn't compatible yet.
Same with Fennec on Android.
This article is pretty poor overall. Why recommend Arc, a browser that requires a user account to even open a webpage, and which the author himself said will probably be disappearing in the near future as part of their own product strategy?
Lame clickbait aimed at nobody.
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Of that list, Zen is the only one really worth considering. And then you have the “but the best one that supports widevine” issue.
Firefox is still great, and Tor Browser is fantastic.
I'm personally checking out Mullvad Browser.
Tor is good for onion sites, but do people use it for general web browsing? Wouldn't it be super slow?
Yes, and you should too because more "natural" traffic helps protect people who need it (journalists, political dissidents, etc). For mostly text content, it's fine.
Sure, if you want to wait 3 minutes for your all-text site to load.
It's not that bad, it's a handful of seconds.
Yes basically unusable in my experience.
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Me using Firefox until Orion comes out:
Orion will be restricted to Apple ecosystems, no?
It currently is, but they are shipping a Linux version this year.
Honestly I wish Kagi would build their own full Firefox fork and maintain it independently. I already pay for search, I wouldn't mind paying for my browser if it actually respected me!
mullvad's browser is based on firefox.
Hm...not sure, if I want to support another Webkit browser
We need more diversity in web engines
Its actually pretty important that some normal traffic does flow through tor. If you dont mind the speed then its perfectly okay* to do all your web browsing through tor
*there are some caveats here but its not about the network really
Opera is and always was trash.
I beg to differ, when Opera had its own engine and wasn't Chinese owned - back in the early '00s.
Opera was so good. Disable images, force custom CSS, gestures! Stuff no one else had at the time.
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Opera also was a good alternative on Symbian phones right or whatever OS Nokia used before they switched to Windows Phone, I think.
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As someone who used Opera 2002-2013 (Presto era), I quibble with the "always".
But I do not quibble with the "is".
I loved opera back then.
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Ironically, I could not reach the end of the list because the fucking ads kept reloading the page and scrolling me to the top. Anyone know which of these 6 would block that?
Anything Firefox based with uBlock origin. Don't see a single ad or anything on mine.
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ZDnet 🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢
I didn't see Waterfox mentioned in the article or comments, so I'm giving it a shout out now. Firefox is still my #1 browser, which I have synced to all my critical accounts, and use very cautiously, only using a few trustwothy extensions. However, when I want to explore unfamiliar domains or experiment with lesser-known browser extensions, I've relied on the equally dependable Waterfox browser. It's fast, free, and 99% the same as Firefox except it's a completely different app so you can basically have 2 Firefoxes set up and customized for completely different roles. Between the two, I can keep Chrome frozen on my phone and off my desktop (although I have a portable Chromium on USB for emergencies).
You do know Firefox has profiles you can use to effectively make it two (or more) separate browsers?
Not shitting on Waterfox, just FYI.
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Zen browser is really nice imo. The developers update it very frequently.
One drawback is that it lacks widevine support, which means that things like netflix won’t work.
Zen looks nice and some of the UX concepts (workspaces, glance, split sidebar from vertical tabs) work well. The 'fit & finish' and the way changes are pushed (unilaterally? Unvalidated with endusers?) feels very much like a 1 man hobby project though.
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