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[–] Ravenfreak@discuss.online 13 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I never liked Windows 10, I had way too many issues with it. However, so many companies rely on old versions of Windows and it takes them years to upgrade to the latest version. The machines I use at work still have Windows 10 installed because the software we rely on isn't compatible with Windows 11 yet. This whole "trade in your old PC for a new one" is ridiculous. Thankfully there's many Linux distros that work with older hardware so you don't need Windows!

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

When management doesn’t want to upgrade from XP because it still works

[–] Droggelbecher@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

My highschool PCs had XP for as long as at all possible. They switched them to some beginner friendly Linux after. Way to go.

[–] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 58 points 3 days ago (3 children)

If you are living on the coast and the water is rising due to climate change, just sell your house and move.

[–] InnerScientist@lemmy.world 34 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Sell their houses to who, Ben? Fucking Aquaman?!

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[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 26 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

Hah. Good luck trying to make me dispose of the computer I built almost a decade ago and that I just upgraded. Neither my laptops nor my phones have outlived this baby.

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[–] sfu@lemm.ee 18 points 2 days ago (7 children)

I'm not using windows, but apple does the same thing. My OS is 9 versions old because they won't let me upgrade without buying a new computer.

[–] LiveLM@lemmy.zip 14 points 2 days ago (2 children)
[–] 01189998819991197253@infosec.pub 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Will installing / using this reset or format the Mac? I mean, as a first time install thing.

[–] LiveLM@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Believe so, yes. You have to clean install the OS with a installer made using the tool.

Ah ok. Thanks!

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[–] aks69cw@feddit.nl 22 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Always wandering why it isn' t possible for Microsoft to maintain their version and update all along. Linux can do it, Android can do it. I' m not sure about Apple. I switched to Linux years ago and I'm still most satisfied about my choice. My current laptop is from 2009 and can still go on for years. That is what you call sustainability

[–] lemmysarius@feddit.org 11 points 2 days ago (2 children)

But then the People wouldnt pay for it over and over again?

People are way less willing to pay for updates than for whole new versions.

Apple and companies using Android are selling hardware, not software like Microsoft.

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[–] suaroof@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Sustainable products are not profitable products. Look at what happened to Tupperware.

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[–] cley_faye@lemmy.world 29 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

Users to microsoft: "You're creating a huge pile of garbage out of perfectly fine devices because of unneeded hardware requirement"

microsoft: "It's ok, just buy a new one"

Rarely have a message gone through so bad.

[–] Bristingr@lemm.ee 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Funny because people still use Windows 7 in large quantities across the world.

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[–] Ickabod@lemm.ee 21 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Trading in a PC.... in 2025? To who? Where? What time period, even? They must be thinking it's still 1985, and you can trade in your IBM Compatible to your nearest IBM Distributor.

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[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 62 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (4 children)

jokes on them i just erased my windows and put mint on it

[–] lka1988@lemmy.dbzer0.com 24 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (3 children)

Hi from a Thinkpad running Debian (Mint), as God intended

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[–] Apocalypteroid@lemmy.world 35 points 3 days ago (4 children)

And I now I use Linux. Will never go back to Windows after this nonsense.

[–] Asfalttikyntaja@sopuli.xyz 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

This is the way. Linux gave my computer more freedom and lifespan. Never go back again.

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[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 45 points 3 days ago

This is kinda funny, just thinking someone believes you can "trade in" a PC at all. Even more so when they are trying to say those same Windows 10 machines will be so useless you need to trade them in in the first place, making the value of such a trade in what, next to nothing?

[–] LiamTheBox@lemmy.ml 15 points 2 days ago

Actually you can get the IoT Enterprise LTSC here and do your windows thing until 2032

https://massgrave.dev/windows_ltsc_links

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 25 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (5 children)

Can MS be sued by EU for this? There was the thing with USB-C, because E-waste, and now the most used Desktop-OS says "just throw your PC away" for a not really needed (and artifically defined) requirement.

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[–] Legom7@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago (1 children)

How much could a new PC be Michael, $10?

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[–] BenReilly97@lemmy.world 133 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Trade in their PCs to who? Fucking Aquaman?

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[–] ptz@dubvee.org 153 points 3 days ago (7 children)

It's one new PC, Michael. How much could it cost? $10?

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[–] dan00@lemm.ee 19 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Linux users tell Microsoft to just get over it, dump your parasitic software and start over, because how hard can it be?

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 day ago

As someone who did exactly this a year and a half or so ago: so much easier than you think.

[–] Gremour@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago (2 children)

As hard as plugging in a USB with OS and follow instructions.

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[–] loudartist@lemmy.wtf 76 points 3 days ago (40 children)

Seriously, use Linux. What is the problem?

[–] CoolMatt@lemmy.ca 43 points 3 days ago (46 children)

The problem is there are a billion versions of linux, idk what one to choosex idk if i can play my steam games on linux, everyone who talks about linux seems to be a programmer /coder, and uses jargon that i don't even understand, so idk if I'll even be able to USE linux. And if I ask any questions I feel like it's all gonna end up sounsing like another language to me.

The whole idea of moving to linux is overwhelming.

But I'm starting to hate windows 11. And fuck Apple all together.

[–] ripcord@lemmy.world 30 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Just get Mint, you'll be fine.

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[–] sneezycat@sopuli.xyz 113 points 3 days ago (3 children)

October is going to be a great month to get a cheap second hand computer.

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[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Trade in to whom, to Linux users?.. Actually a good idea, not sure MS understood which almost logically complete advice they gave.

[–] kescusay@lemmy.world 103 points 3 days ago (20 children)

Translation: "Install Linux."

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[–] PillowTalk420@lemmy.world 47 points 3 days ago (13 children)

So, uh... You gonna trade me a better machine for my current one, Microsoft?

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[–] Etterra@discuss.online 34 points 3 days ago

Oh sure, why not throw a perfectly functional $1,300 into a shredder so we can make Microsoft happy? Oh yeah, I know, because fuck you Microsoft.

[–] Paranoidfactoid@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago

Linux/BSD blah blah blah

[–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 2 days ago (3 children)

W10 wouldn't get past the pin screen (type pin, then black screen forever, nothing else), so I used a live boot disk of fedora to rescue my files (turns out you can just bypass windows pins and mount the drive), then installed fedora on my old toshiba satellite and never looked back. Few years in I upgraded with linux in mind and now am cruising with a Framework 16. No regrets.

Join us! Cast off your shackles! Microsoft has no power over you beyond what you willingly give them!

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[–] deathbird@mander.xyz 22 points 3 days ago

A testament to the shot development standards at MS. An OS literally should not in a million years be this resource inefficient, especially out of the box.

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